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My daughter is 10 yrs and for the past year has been experiencing "Heat Waves". Numerous testing has not found any cause for this. She is a happy child, but the heat waves can come at any time. While playing, at sporting event she is participating in, at school etc. She is not under any undo stress. We are at odds. Are now wondering if she has an anxiety or panic disorder. Her heat waves lately have been getting more severe. She is cool to the touch, but complains of extreme hot feeling inside. All vital signs normal. We are at wits end. Any thoughts? Thank you.
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My daughter is 10 yrs and for the past year has been experiencing "Heat Waves". Numerous testing has not found any cause for this. She is a happy child, but the heat waves can come at any time. While playing, at sporting event she is participating in, at school etc. She is not under any undo stress. We are at odds. Are now wondering if she has an anxiety or panic disorder. Her heat waves lately have been getting more severe. She is cool to the touch, but complains of extreme hot feeling inside. All vital signs normal. We are at wits end. Any thoughts? Thank you.
Gosh, that must be so frightening for you. You mentioned she had been checked out by a doctor…has anyone in your family expreienced anything like these "heat waves"? Do they seem to be triggered by stress, or activity, or are they more frequent at any time of year? Has she been checked out by an allergist? Does anyone in your family suffer from anxiety? Hope you don’t mind all the questions; just wondering. I really hope you can find some answers. — Kathleen D "Hope is the thing with feathers" – Emily Dickinson
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My daughter is 10 yrs and for the past year has been experiencing "Heat Waves".
I would have her tested for a hormone imbalance. Di
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My daughter is 10 yrs and for the past year has been experiencing "Heat Waves". Numerous testing has not found any cause for this. She is a happy child, but the heat waves can come at any time. While playing, at sporting event she is participating in, at school etc. She is not under any undo stress. We are at odds. Are now wondering if she has an anxiety or panic disorder. Her heat waves lately have been getting more severe. She is cool to the touch, but complains of extreme hot feeling inside. All vital signs normal. We are at wits end. Any thoughts? Thank you.
It may very well be possible, sadly, that she is developing an anxiety disorder indeed. Children of PD-sufferers have a 4-7 times more chance to get PD as well. This doesn’t mean that *you* as a person have brought PD to her, but that it’s a genetic matter. I know some people with children who have inherited anxiety disorders, some younger than your daughter. If you want me to, I can put you into contact with them. Please email me or post here. I *am* sorry to hear this as my heart weeps for children with PD. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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| My daughter is 10 yrs and for the past year has been experiencing "Heat | Waves". | | I would have her tested for a hormone imbalance. Di I’d second that. It may not even be a problem – she may be entering puberty and experiencing the normal effects of estrogen level variation. But I’d definitely get it looked at. -Mike Dedek
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My daughter is 10 yrs and for the past year has been experiencing "Heat Waves". I would have her tested for a hormone imbalance. Di
So would I. Ian Ian<<atdragoncon<dotnet
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: | My daughter is 10 yrs and for the past year has been experiencing "Heat | Waves". | | I would have her tested for a hormone imbalance. Di I’d second that. It may not even be a problem – she may be entering puberty and experiencing the normal effects of estrogen level variation. But I’d definitely get it looked at. -Mike Dedek
Sounds very reasonable Mike. Puberty is traumatic for kids and I think the pediatrician will probably verify that this is just an adjustment time. Girls tend to begin puberty at about that age. We (males) are spared that confusing transition for a few more years. -Stone
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I also agree that a good starting point for your child would be a hormone panel. This must be very rough on you, Mom. Best of luck to you and let us know how you make out. Good Health. Tova
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Does anyone know where i can find a website or message board for anxiety in children? A friend of mine has a 7yr old going through this and i think any kind of info would help her…. thanks boots
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Does anyone know where i can find a website or message board for anxiety in children? A friend of mine has a 7yr old going through this and i think any kind of info would help her…. thanks boots
Hi Boots, This website has alot of info on children and anxiety disorders. I wish your friend and her child much luck!! Take care. Jackie http://panicdisorder.about.com/msub18.htm
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You are so right about the asthma being worse than the allergies.
My son has allergy induced asthma. You are correct about it being frightening. It can hit him at any time, right out of the blue and he has to rely on his fast acting inhaler. He is 13 and on the go so much that I am always worried about him. He can cough once or twice and I always ask him "Robby, are you OK? Do you need your inhaler?" I know he feels like I am hovering over him at all times but it is really hard not being able to "take care" of him anymore. He is turning into a man in front of my very eyes and that terrifies me as well. On the flip side, he can exercise (and he does) until the days end and he has no breathing problems. He just needs to be reminded to never leave the house without his inhaler. Missy
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Well , at this stage, I just hope its asthma. I have to go to Dr in the middle of week who specializes. Tomorrow I go for lung test. Its scary but I did try the best I could , even though I smoked for too long so my asthma is just so weird. I think its something in this house. I just bought a radon test kit so I should know more this week. When your body reacts to something inflammation occurs and it puts everything out of balance and could be very dangerous. In a way I feel like things will get worse before they get better because I have no place to go until I get sicker . I have tried to email people, including religious people about recommendations and people just don’t care. I could do that all day , and maybe I should but then my dignity starts to rebel .The sad part of the internet for me has been , that I thought I could do so many things with so many people but thats not to be. Of course there are good things also but I guess people like cable tv for their entertainment and they have their own problems in concerns . In a way I feel like I am not doing enough like in the past to protect my best interests. Consistency can be slow! ! thanks for listening and good luck Missy with your son and Deb with your allergies.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are so right about the asthma being worse than the allergies. My son has allergy induced asthma. You are correct about it being frightening. It can hit him at any time, right out of the blue and he has to rely on his fast acting inhaler. He is 13 and on the go so much that I am always worried about him. He can cough once or twice and I always ask him "Robby, are you OK? Do you need your inhaler?" I know he feels like I am hovering over him at all times but it is really hard not being able to "take care" of him anymore. He is turning into a man in front of my very eyes and that terrifies me as well. On the flip side, he can exercise (and he does) until the days end and he has no breathing problems. He just needs to be reminded to never leave the house without his inhaler. Missy
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With an 8-year old therapy will focus on the behavioural aspect. not the cognitive one. And yes, that can be done although IMO it takes a therapist who is specialized in working with children. Philip Philip, have you ever seen the book: "Don’t Feed the Monster on Tuesdays?" It’s basically a story-book to help kids do cognitive restructuring.
Nope. My children are adults and they don’t seem to have any serious disorders (unless having me as a father counts as one 
Very cute. I’ve even shown it to some adult clients, who always get a few grins out of it, in addition to learning. I’m going to recommend it to everyone reading this group. Read it and you’ll never think of your harsh self-judgments the same way again.
If I’ll come across it I’ll buy it. How to help children with PD etc. interests me (naturally). Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.syzygy-counseling.com
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steve You are so right about the asthma being worse than the allergies. I was so thankful my tests all came back negative for it. My grandad had it and with all the symptoms I was having I was sure I did too. Fortunately I didnt. I know today they have a lot better medicines and treatments to keep it under control but it is still very scary and I hope you find something that will help you to keep yours under control. Deb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Steve I have to make decisions that to many may seem a bit neurotic and try to determine which place is best to exercise. and follow websites that tell of air pollution patterns Not neurotic at all. I follow the pollen websites in the summer so I can know when I can run or walk outdoors without having a bad allergy attack. Well Deb I was hoping my condition was because of allergies and when I took the test in Dr.s office he said I just fell into asthma category but I also was reactive to everything on my arm he tested me for. Your at least lucky your not asthmatic! . I use to take allergy shots and to me at least they are not the same things as having asthma, which is lots scarier. So while the park is great for me , it may be scary for you. I hope you don’t run out on street though with lots of traffic. . I usually run on the streets in my neighborhood. I like to go early in the morning when there is no traffic. Our little town is pretty safe but I still take my cell phone and pepper spray lol GOOD and SMART and be alert if possible who is around you. I don’t have to be but I am always aware how unaware some women run, They seem to be looking soo straight ahead sometimes! Did you smoke? nope. Tried it once and didnt like the taste. Same thing with beer and alcohol. Tried it and didnt like it. Guess thats a good thing though. Its a great thing , give yourself lots of credit for not giving in to peer pressure OR you had great parents or friends as role models. A couple of weeks ! lol, wait till you hit 48, it won’t be weeks , it will be days well actually I have already hit 48 and it hit back lol. I am 51. My 10 year old niece tells me I am cool so I guess I am not that old yet lol. Well maybe you have the metabolism of these old ladys who go to the grocery store and eat tons of frozen stouffers dinners. Whats with that? lol and they are all mostly thin and around 94 years old lol.It had to be metabolism. But only kidding I can tell you probably eat lots healthier now. I hope you can enjoy a good choc and vanilla ice cream sandwich now and then 
oh believe me I do. Sweets are my weakness. We cant give up everything. We have to have something to look forward to lol. lol tell me about it. I still eat six of those chocolate sandwich bars (low calories lol) with vanilla ice cream.in the middle ? at one time. They say thats only 600 calories but afterwards I feel like they are much more. can’t go back to other way . Maybe my body will compensate but you have to have hope, Never give up hope. It sounds like you are doing all the right things to stay healthy. Well until you read the previous lines lol Take care. Deb lots of luck and thanks for responding to my message Thanks steve and you are welcome. I find your posts to be quite interesting. You share a lot of good information and really give my brain a good workout sometimes Hey thats nice. Last time I talked about being reactive. I think people with GAD could be mistaken for manic etc and its only because we have so much energy. I think energy and anxiety makes me think in the moment which is why I never planned on anything since highschool. , I wonder if people with anxiety have a hard time planning for things further down the line. I know consistency should be a buzz word for people who didn’t have any in their life.I think when people describe school they are going to , its showing us and them they can be consistent and plan. Incidentally if you have a furnace check out your filter it can make a huge difference. Very true. I bought an allergen filter and can see a big difference. There you go, good job . I put one in last month and when I checked it out, it was horrific with dirt , had to change it. Thanks for telling me how you cope and much good health for you and your family.- I think thats how we all learn to live with these disorders. By sharing what works for us and how we learn to cope. Good health to you and your family also Steve. I couldnt ask for anything better than for everyone to have good health,both physically and mentally. Deb You too Deb
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With an 8-year old therapy will focus on the behavioural aspect. not the cognitive one. And yes, that can be done although IMO it takes a therapist who is specialized in working with children. Philip
Philip, have you ever seen the book: "Don’t Feed the Monster on Tuesdays?" It’s basically a story-book to help kids do cognitive restructuring. Very cute. I’ve even shown it to some adult clients, who always get a few grins out of it, in addition to learning. I’m going to recommend it to everyone reading this group. Read it and you’ll never think of your harsh self-judgments the same way again. http://www.syzygy-counseling.com
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Hi Steve I have to make decisions that to many may seem a bit neurotic and try to determine which place is best to exercise. and follow websites that tell of air pollution patterns
Not neurotic at all. I follow the pollen websites in the summer so I can know when I can run or walk outdoors without having a bad allergy attack. So while the park is great for me , it may be scary for you. I hope you don’t run out on street though with lots of traffic. .
I usually run on the streets in my neighborhood. I like to go early in the morning when there is no traffic. Our little town is pretty safe but I still take my cell phone and pepper spray lol Did you smoke?
nope. Tried it once and didnt like the taste. Same thing with beer and alcohol. Tried it and didnt like it. Guess thats a good thing though. A couple of weeks ! lol, wait till you hit 48, it won’t be weeks , it will be days
well actually I have already hit 48 and it hit back lol. I am 51. My 10 year old niece tells me I am cool so I guess I am not that old yet lol. I hope you can enjoy a good choc and vanilla ice cream sandwich now and then
oh believe me I do. Sweets are my weakness. We cant give up everything. We have to have something to look forward to lol. can’t go back to other way . Maybe my body will compensate but you have to have hope,
Never give up hope. It sounds like you are doing all the right things to stay healthy. Deb lots of luck and thanks for responding to my message
Thanks steve and you are welcome. I find your posts to be quite interesting. You share a lot of good information and really give my brain a good workout sometimes Incidentally if you have a furnace check out your filter it can make a huge difference.
Very true. I bought an allergen filter and can see a big difference. Thanks for telling me how you cope and much good health for you and your family.-
I think thats how we all learn to live with these disorders. By sharing what works for us and how we learn to cope. Good health to you and your family also Steve. I couldnt ask for anything better than for everyone to have good health,both physically and mentally. Deb
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Hi Steve I have to make decisions that to many may seem a bit neurotic and try to determine which place is best to exercise. and follow websites that tell of air pollution patterns Not neurotic at all. I follow the pollen websites in the summer so I can know when I can run or walk outdoors without having a bad allergy attack.
Well Deb I was hoping my condition was because of allergies and when I took the test in Dr.s office he said I just fell into asthma category but I also was reactive to everything on my arm he tested me for. Your at least lucky your not asthmatic! . I use to take allergy shots and to me at least they are not the same things as having asthma, which is lots scarier. So while the park is great for me , it may be scary for you. I hope you don’t run out on street though with lots of traffic. . I usually run on the streets in my neighborhood. I like to go early in the morning when there is no traffic. Our little town is pretty safe but I still take my cell phone and pepper spray lol
GOOD and SMART and be alert if possible who is around you. I don’t have to be but I am always aware how unaware some women run, They seem to be looking soo straight ahead sometimes! Did you smoke? nope. Tried it once and didnt like the taste. Same thing with beer and alcohol. Tried it and didnt like it. Guess thats a good thing though.
Its a great thing , give yourself lots of credit for not giving in to peer pressure OR you had great parents or friends as role models. A couple of weeks ! lol, wait till you hit 48, it won’t be weeks , it will be days well actually I have already hit 48 and it hit back lol. I am 51. My 10 year old niece tells me I am cool so I guess I am not that old yet lol.
Well maybe you have the metabolism of these old ladys who go to the grocery store and eat tons of frozen stouffers dinners. Whats with that? lol and they are all mostly thin and around 94 years old lol.It had to be metabolism. But only kidding I can tell you probably eat lots healthier now. I hope you can enjoy a good choc and vanilla ice cream sandwich now and then oh believe me I do. Sweets are my weakness. We cant give up everything. We have to have something to look forward to lol. lol tell me about it. I still eat six of those chocolate sandwich bars
(low calories lol) with vanilla ice cream.in the middle ? at one time. They say thats only 600 calories but afterwards I feel like they are much more. can’t go back to other way . Maybe my body will compensate but you have to have hope, Never give up hope. It sounds like you are doing all the right things to stay healthy.
Well until you read the previous lines lol Take care. Deb lots of luck and thanks for responding to my message Thanks steve and you are welcome. I find your posts to be quite interesting. You share a lot of good information and really give my brain a good workout sometimes
Hey thats nice. Last time I talked about being reactive. I think people with GAD could be mistaken for manic etc and its only because we have so much energy. I think energy and anxiety makes me think in the moment which is why I never planned on anything since highschool. , I wonder if people with anxiety have a hard time planning for things further down the line. I know consistency should be a buzz word for people who didn’t have any in their life.I think when people describe school they are going to , its showing us and them they can be consistent and plan. Incidentally if you have a furnace check out your filter it can make a huge difference. Very true. I bought an allergen filter and can see a big difference. There you go, good job . I put one in last month and when I checked it
out, it was horrific with dirt , had to change it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for telling me how you cope and much good health for you and your family.- I think thats how we all learn to live with these disorders. By sharing what works for us and how we learn to cope. Good health to you and your family also Steve. I couldnt ask for anything better than for everyone to have good health,both physically and mentally. Deb You too Deb
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Hi Steve I am glad your asthma is doing better. Its good that you know that pollution is most likely the trigger for yours. Its almost impossible to avoid all pollution because it can be inside and outside but at least you can avoid as much of it as possible. I cant run outside when it is cold. I start to wheeze and cant breathe and of course tht sets me up for a panic attack. I thought I did have asthma but all tests came back negative for it. So all winter I run inside. You are so right about staying consistant. I can usually go off my exercise and diet routine for a couple of weeks but anything past that and I start to feel bad again. It is a lot of hard work but the end result of being less anxious and not having as many or as severe panic attacks is worth it. well your asthma is doing better and also you said you are doing better with your weight and cholesterol and thats great. Now if you can just get rid of the insomnia that would be really good. I know what you are saying about the meds. I take a .125 of xanax once a day and thats it. I am so med phobic but I am trying to overcome that. Its really hard when you have been that way for years though. Deb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ok Deb follow you.Personally when the cold wind clears out moderate air days in the east coast my breathing is better so I like cold weather and that usually means good air days believe it or not! . My asthma tend to be directly correlated to the exhausts in surrounding area and pollution conditions for my city. I am totally convinced this is why asthma is up , not a germ not a fungus, simple: pollution. Its amazing, when I run in the park I can tell the air is getting dirty as I head towards the streets.If I had to breath that day in I would be bad off, thanks for asking, This is why I have to leave the east coast but its difficult for many reasons like my dad who i take care. Finally at mid age things are gelling But its extremely difficult. Running and eating health food (which is pretty enjoyable sometimes), getting away from coffee, but the inconsistent sleep is pretty bad and having to do these things just to literally survive since in my bod everything is connected..What I learn is you have to stay consistent and do the right things over long times.One let down for say a week or month and my pressure or cholesterol goes up and I start to churn inside with anxiety even more and when they say listen to your body, ITS TRUE , it will cause physical illness if you don’t listen. So anyway I will gain weight and its soo connected to me.and then I have a hard time breathing . I look at photos and its true the more condition you are the better you look and feel. For two years I have been trying to lose weight and your talking to someone who doesn’t eat more then 2000 calories anyway, and still was ten to twenty pounds overweight . My metab slowed down but now weight is better and things are better but wouldn’t you know the sleep part now is off. I have done ok without meds, Maybe I need them I don’t know.I just take buspar and blood pressure and half a lipitor. Thats enough lol . No one can really tell another person what will work for them because no two people react the same way to the different treatments. The only thing we can do is share what has worked for us. Its mostly a trial and error kind of thing. You keep trying until you find what works for you and then you stick with it. I am glad the exercise works for you and gives you some relief from the anxiety. I do hope someday you can get to the point where it works for you without your having to completely exhaust yourself by running such long distances. By the way how is your asthma doing. I know this is usually a bad time of year for asthma sufferers. Hope yours is doing better Deb Yes deb thats true, its just my reaction , take care.Ps -While I don’t have to run to exhaustion , I still have to run harder then many people much younger.Its the only thing that works. sorry I was not in a good mood. I understand it in a limited sense, but in a way I think its a buzz word . It’s not a buzz word but I do think I understand what you mean. If I was new to anxiety and to this group I’d be thinking this must be some magic cure the way we all go on about it. Hope your mood improves I just seem Vanessa, to do so much work physically and mentally that the one word seems too easy to sum up what works at least to me. So much depends on who is doing the therapy and then there is the type of therapy and then the meds and then you might make hay out of it all if you can afford the therapist and then even then I doubt it would work for me.Maybe everyone has a different form of anxiety then I do. I admit mine is pretty strong . I think I get upset and take it personally because I probably fell into the chronic condition where virtually little worked. Whether what I received in therapy in the past was desensitivity or psychotherapy or cognitive therapy, I am pretty sure I had it. The only things that work for me now is winging it and taking everything from the past I learned and it takes everything together for me to just exist without total dysfunction . One might tell me to find a good cognitive therapist but hey it just sounds so variable. I am not against someone getting what they need and even calling it cognitive, it just sounds so easy . I almost need to physically be slowed down by exercise and thats it or strong drugs. I am not at that stage again yet. I am getting off of caffeine and this has not helped but I realize sometimes it takes months for withdrawl to take place. I don’t know, its all winging it.thanks for listening
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Hi Steve Hi Deb I am glad your asthma is doing better. Yes for today Its good that you know that pollution is most likely the trigger for yours. Its almost impossible to avoid all pollution because it can be inside and
outside Yes Deb , for sure.I think inside is much worse then outside, yet if I want to slow down , I have to make decisions that to many may seem a bit neurotic and try to determine which place is best to exercise. and follow websites that tell of air pollution patterns. lol but at least you can avoid as much of it as possible. I cant run outside when it is cold. I start to wheeze and cant breathe and of course tht sets me up for a panic attack. I thought I did have asthma but all tests came back negative for it. So all winter I run inside.
Deb, initially I get tight chest but running will just do that to me initally. If its real cold try going slow and staying with it. Often within say twenty minutes I am taking lighter layers of clothes off in the park and its easier. I would imagine its harder for a gal to run outside because of saftey factor. In my city there is a rapist and murderer who attacked women in our cities parks three times and they have not found him.So while the park is great for me , it may be scary for you. I hope you don’t run out on street though with lots of traffic. . Part of it Deb is I smoked for 15 years but thats just made me more diligent to know what affects me now that I don’t.I saw my parents do it and so I did it. Bad decision, Did you smoke? You are so right about staying consistant. I can usually go off my exercise and diet routine for a couple of weeks but anything past that and I start to feel bad again.
A couple of weeks ! lol, wait till you hit 48, it won’t be weeks , it will be days. Actually though I don’t know that for sure. I hope you can enjoy a good choc and vanilla ice cream sandwich now and then .I tell everyone I eat pizza although I take off the cheese and even then I can’t do too much of anymore.Yes consistent , just the complete opposite I use to be. People who have gad I can imagine are more prone to intense tirades, NOT THAT I WOULD KNOW .:) It is a lot of hard work but the end result of being less anxious and not having as many or as severe panic attacks is worth it. well your asthma is doing better and also you said you are doing better with your weight and cholesterol and thats great. Now if you can just get rid of the insomnia that would be really good.
I sometimes feel its a yo yo if I don’t want to take drugs. One way i feel fit but I get light sleep, the other way I tend to stay ten or 20 pounds overweight and I sleep better but the physical problems were adding up. I don’t know I can’t go back to other way . Maybe my body will compensate but you have to have hope, I am doing lots of things different now like omega 3 and omega6 ’s and Coq-10 and no cholesterol .You can thank my mom for feeding me fat when I was young for me always being hungry. Amazing.sometimes when I see these shows with Bradshaw I think he is talking directly to me! I know what you are saying about the meds. I take a .125 of xanax once a day and thats it. I am so med phobic but I am trying to overcome that. Its really hard when you have been that way for years though.
Its hard because I saw my mom get worse on meds. I was on meds for years in hospital, it was more or less a fog with meds and cigarettes. This is what they knew as help back twenty years ago. I don’t know whats changed now though. I would imagine if I had to go in for therapy somewhere and I was in a room of people with anxiety , most would be smoking .Anyway yes drugs are last option mentally at least. Thanks for telling me how you cope and much good health for you and your family.-Steve Deb
Deb lots of luck and thanks for responding to my message. When I do exercise indoor I put my hepa filter on and open a window and turn down the heat. Incidentally if you have a furnace check out your filter it can make a huge difference. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok Deb follow you.Personally when the cold wind clears out moderate air days in the east coast my breathing is better so I like cold weather and that usually means good air days believe it or not! . My asthma tend to be directly correlated to the exhausts in surrounding area and pollution conditions for my city. I am totally convinced this is why asthma is up , not a germ not a fungus, simple: pollution. Its amazing, when I run in the park I can tell the air is getting dirty as I head towards the streets.If I had to breath that day in I would be bad off, thanks for asking, This is why I have to leave the east coast but its difficult for many reasons like my dad who i take care. Finally at mid age things are gelling But its extremely difficult. Running and eating health food (which is pretty enjoyable sometimes), getting away from coffee, but the inconsistent sleep is pretty bad and having to do these things just to literally survive since in my bod everything is connected..What I learn is you have to stay consistent and do the right things over long times.One let down for say a week or month and my pressure or cholesterol goes up and I start to churn inside with anxiety even more and when they say listen to your body, ITS TRUE , it will cause physical illness if you don’t listen. So anyway I will gain weight and its soo connected to me.and then I have a hard time breathing . I look at photos and its true the more condition you are the better you look and feel. For two years I have been trying to lose weight and your talking to someone who doesn’t eat more then 2000 calories anyway, and still was ten to twenty pounds overweight . My metab slowed down but now weight is better and things are better but wouldn’t you know the sleep part now is off. I have done ok without meds, Maybe I need them I don’t know.I just take buspar and blood pressure and half a lipitor. Thats enough lol . No one can really tell another person what will work for them because no two people react the same way to the different treatments. The only thing we can do is share what has worked for us. Its mostly a trial and error kind of thing. You keep trying until you find what works for you and then you stick with it. I am glad the exercise works for you and gives you some relief from the anxiety. I do hope someday you can get to the point where it works for you without your having to completely exhaust yourself by running such long distances. By the way how is your asthma doing. I know this is usually a bad time of year for asthma sufferers. Hope yours is doing better Deb Yes deb thats true, its just my reaction , take care.Ps -While I don’t have to run to exhaustion , I still have to run harder then many people much younger.Its the only thing that works. sorry I was not in a good mood. I understand it in a limited sense, but in a way I think its a buzz word . It’s not a buzz word but I do think I understand what you mean. If I was new to anxiety and to this group I’d be thinking this must be some magic cure the way we all go on about it. Hope your mood improves I just seem Vanessa, to do so much work physically and mentally that the one word seems too easy to sum up what works at least to me. So much depends on who is doing the therapy and then there is the type of therapy and then the meds and then you might make hay out of it all if you can afford the therapist and then even then I doubt it would work for me.Maybe everyone has a different form of anxiety then I do. I admit mine is pretty strong . I think I get upset and take it personally because I probably fell into the chronic condition where virtually little worked. Whether what I received in therapy in the past was desensitivity or psychotherapy or cognitive therapy, I am pretty sure I had it. The only things that work for me now is winging it and taking everything from the past I learned and it takes everything together for me to just exist without total dysfunction . One might tell me to find a good cognitive therapist but hey it just sounds so variable. I am not against someone getting what they need and even calling it cognitive, it just sounds so easy . I almost need to physically be slowed down by exercise and thats it or strong drugs. I am not at that stage again yet. I am getting off of caffeine and this has not helped but I realize sometimes it takes months for withdrawl to take place. I don’t know, its all winging it.thanks for listening
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Hi, I recall similar problems with two of my children at different times. Are you absolutely certain that your daughter is not being bullied? I would particularly question whether she is a victim of exclusion bullying, ie where other children deliberately exclude her from social interaction. This happened with my daughter. She would not tell but another student told her mother who passed the information onto me. In my son’s case the problem was a lunchtime problem. He was alone in the playground. It could be worth asking teachers to monitor if your daughter is socialising during breaks. School refusal is not uncommon and it can be managed. http://www.cyh.com/cyh/parentopics/usr_index0.stm?topic_id=93 love Meryl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you
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Well, it’s pretty mainstream. However, I agree that it is not the only way to go. I find it to be useful (with drugs) in my case. CBT alone may have been helpful. But you raise an interesting point: will CBT work with an 8-year old? A lot of CBT is replacing the irrational with the rational, the false with the true. Can an 8-year old work through that?
With an 8-year old therapy will focus on the behavioural aspect. not the cognitive one. And yes, that can be done although IMO it takes a therapist who is specialized in working with children. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mr. A what the heck is with cognetive therapy with this group. I don’t know a soul with bad anxiety in therapy with cognitive therapy. I get newletters all the time from whole food markets and no one is advertising for cognitive therapy out of thousands of ads. There are many kinds of illness and I can’t believe cognitive therapy will help someone with a adrenalin rush learned early on or from heredity. I personally would try slow sensitivity like Elise talked about .. You don’t need cognitive therapy for this little girl for Gods sake! Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard enough for us adults to manage our anxiety disorders let alone an 8 year old. You say the therapy is not helping but 3 sessions is not enough to evaluate progress, as it may take some time for your daughter to learn the skills to manage the anxiety. Setbacks are part of the process to recovery so don’t give up due to this horrible episode this morning. Re medication – for severe cases this may be necessary and can be combined effectively with cognitive behavioural therapy (assuming this is the type of therapy being used for your daughter – if not I highly recommend it). I personally would continue with cognitive behavioural therapy a little longer prior to trying medication, but if it is severe GAD then medication may be worth considering. Also is your counsellor a specialist in anxiety disorders for children. I highly recommend you try and find a specialist in this field and getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion to ensure you have the proper diagnosis. There are many doctors and psychologists who know very little about child anxiety. I truly understand the pressure this is placing on your family. My 11 year old niece was just diagnosed with OCD and the family is considering going to family counselling due to the pressure and turmoil it has caused them all trying to understand, cope and support their child. take care and let us know how your daughter is going. I am quickly searching for some links about anxiety in children which may help you. OK here are some that were given to me recently: http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/ For Friends/family http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/forfriendsfamily/ Youth Anxiety http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthanxiety/ Vanessa
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what the heck is with cognetive therapy with this group. I don’t know a soul with bad anxiety in therapy with cognitive therapy. I get newletters all the time from whole food markets and no one is advertising for cognitive therapy out of thousands of ads. There are many kinds of illness and I can’t believe cognitive therapy will help someone with a adrenalin rush learned early on or from heredity. I personally would try slow sensitivity like Elise talked about .. You don’t need cognitive therapy for this little girl for Gods sake! Almost *all* informed anxiety sufferers did or do CBT. You don’t believe in it and at the same time you refuse to educate yourself about it. That’s fine with me, it’s your life but please don’t scare other people off what could be a life saver. I’m quite serious about this. Your opinion about what you will or will not do for yourself is your business. But giving out misinformation based on conscious lack of knowledge is another matter. Please stop doing this. Philip
Philip I don’t fall for these words Philip. Each therapist is different , and putting a word cognitive therapy to it doesn’t make it a good choice necessarily. All the cognitive therapy in the world won’t do squat if a person needs nutritional counseling and an exercise program to get their system slowed down..Many people don’t see how their past is connected to learned behaviour and can tell just by listening to you guys it doesn’t matter. this is soo important so people have a basis to better themselves and not make the same mistakes. . Does this cognitive qualififed person know about natural foods and exercise too? Is this person affordable? Will this person understand or even ask about the past . Each therapist is different and I am more afraid of someone falling into lost expectation generated by generalities with words that can mean soo much and might not help. Philip if it works for you and you want to promote this , then fine, I might just forward it with my own practical advice also about different forms of therapy too.instead And if you don’t like that, thats fine also but nothing you can do about it.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "
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Hi Steve As I was reading your reply to vanessa about doing so much work both physically and mentally it really started me thinking just how much hard work it does take to stay on top of these disorders. It did take CBT therapy and medicine for me to get started on the right track. Now it takes a combination of medicine and eating right,exercise,yoga,meditation,and self hypnosis just to keep me
functional. Ok Deb follow you.Personally when the cold wind clears out moderate air days in the east coast my breathing is better so I like cold weather and that usually means good air days believe it or not! . My asthma tend to be directly correlated to the exhausts in surrounding area and pollution conditions for my city. I am totally convinced this is why asthma is up , not a germ not a fungus, simple: pollution. Its amazing, when I run in the park I can tell the air is getting dirty as I head towards the streets.If I had to breath that day in I would be bad off, thanks for asking, This is why I have to leave the east coast but its difficult for many reasons like my dad who i take care. Finally at mid age things are gelling But its extremely difficult. Running and eating health food (which is pretty enjoyable sometimes), getting away from coffee, but the inconsistent sleep is pretty bad and having to do these things just to literally survive since in my bod everything is connected..What I learn is you have to stay consistent and do the right things over long times.One let down for say a week or month and my pressure or cholesterol goes up and I start to churn inside with anxiety even more and when they say listen to your body, ITS TRUE , it will cause physical illness if you don’t listen. So anyway I will gain weight and its soo connected to me.and then I have a hard time breathing . I look at photos and its true the more condition you are the better you look and feel. For two years I have been trying to lose weight and your talking to someone who doesn’t eat more then 2000 calories anyway, and still was ten to twenty pounds overweight . My metab slowed down but now weight is better and things are better but wouldn’t you know the sleep part now is off. I have done ok without meds, Maybe I need them I don’t know.I just take buspar and blood pressure and half a lipitor. Thats enough lol . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No one can really tell another person what will work for them because no two people react the same way to the different treatments. The only thing we can do is share what has worked for us. Its mostly a trial and error kind of thing. You keep trying until you find what works for you and then you stick with it. I am glad the exercise works for you and gives you some relief from the anxiety. I do hope someday you can get to the point where it works for you without your having to completely exhaust yourself by running such long distances. By the way how is your asthma doing. I know this is usually a bad time of year for asthma sufferers. Hope yours is doing better Deb Yes deb thats true, its just my reaction , take care.Ps -While I don’t
have to run to exhaustion , I still have to run harder then many people much younger.Its the only thing that works. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sorry I was not in a good mood. I understand it in a limited sense, but in a way I think its a buzz word . It’s not a buzz word but I do think I understand what you mean. If I was new to anxiety and to this group I’d be thinking this must be some magic cure the way we all go on about it. Hope your mood improves I just seem Vanessa, to do so much work physically and mentally that the one word seems too easy to sum up what works at least to me. So much depends on who is doing the therapy and then there is the type of therapy and then the meds and then you might make hay out of it all if you can afford the therapist and then even then I doubt it would work for me.Maybe everyone has a different form of anxiety then I do. I admit mine is pretty strong . I think I get upset and take it personally because I probably fell into the chronic condition where virtually little worked. Whether what I received in therapy in the past was desensitivity or psychotherapy or cognitive therapy, I am pretty sure I had it. The only things that work for me now is winging it and taking everything from the past I learned and it takes everything together for me to just exist without total dysfunction . One might tell me to find a good cognitive therapist but hey it just sounds so variable. I am not against someone getting what they need and even calling it cognitive, it just sounds so easy . I almost need to physically be slowed down by exercise and thats it or strong drugs. I am not at that stage again yet. I am getting off of caffeine and this has not helped but I realize sometimes it takes months for withdrawl to take place. I don’t know, its all winging it.thanks for listening
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what the heck is with cognetive therapy with this group. I don’t know a soul with bad anxiety in therapy with cognitive therapy. I get newletters all the time from whole food markets and no one is advertising for cognitive therapy out of thousands of ads. There are many kinds of illness and I can’t believe cognitive therapy will help someone with a adrenalin rush learned early on or from heredity. I personally would try slow sensitivity like Elise talked about .. You don’t need cognitive therapy for this little girl for Gods sake!
Almost *all* informed anxiety sufferers did or do CBT. You don’t believe in it and at the same time you refuse to educate yourself about it. That’s fine with me, it’s your life but please don’t scare other people off what could be a life saver. I’m quite serious about this. Your opinion about what you will or will not do for yourself is your business. But giving out misinformation based on conscious lack of knowledge is another matter. Please stop doing this. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard enough for us adults to manage our anxiety disorders let alone an 8 year old. You say the therapy is not helping but 3 sessions is not enough to evaluate progress, as it may take some time for your daughter to learn the skills to manage the anxiety. Setbacks are part of the process to recovery so don’t give up due to this horrible episode this morning. Re medication – for severe cases this may be necessary and can be combined effectively with cognitive behavioural therapy (assuming this is the type of therapy being used for your daughter – if not I highly recommend it). I personally would continue with cognitive behavioural therapy a little longer prior to trying medication, but if it is severe GAD then medication may be worth considering. Also is your counsellor a specialist in anxiety disorders for children. I highly recommend you try and find a specialist in this field and getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion to ensure you have the proper diagnosis. There are many doctors and psychologists who know very little about child anxiety. I truly understand the pressure this is placing on your family. My 11 year old niece was just diagnosed with OCD and the family is considering going to family counselling due to the pressure and turmoil it has caused them all trying to understand, cope and support their child. take care and let us know how your daughter is going. I am quickly searching for some links about anxiety in children which may help you. OK here are some that were given to me recently: http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/ For Friends/family http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/forfriendsfamily/ Youth Anxiety http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthanxiety/ Vanessa
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Well, it’s pretty mainstream. However, I agree that it is not the only way to go. I find it to be useful (with drugs) in my case. CBT alone may have been helpful. But you raise an interesting point: will CBT work with an 8-year old? A lot of CBT is replacing the irrational with the rational, the false with the true. Can an 8-year old work through that? Mr. A – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what the heck is with cognetive therapy with this group. I don’t know a soul with bad anxiety in therapy with cognitive therapy. I get newletters all the time from whole food markets and no one is advertising for cognitive therapy out of thousands of ads. There are many kinds of illness and I can’t believe cognitive therapy will help someone with a adrenalin rush learned early on or from heredity. I personally would try slow sensitivity like Elise talked about .. You don’t need cognitive therapy for this little girl for Gods sake! Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard enough for us adults to manage our anxiety disorders let alone an 8 year old. You say the therapy is not helping but 3 sessions is not enough to evaluate progress, as it may take some time for your daughter to learn the skills to manage the anxiety. Setbacks are part of the process to recovery so don’t give up due to this horrible episode this morning. Re medication – for severe cases this may be necessary and can be combined effectively with cognitive behavioural therapy (assuming this is the type of therapy being used for your daughter – if not I highly recommend it). I personally would continue with cognitive behavioural therapy a little longer prior to trying medication, but if it is severe GAD then medication may be worth considering. Also is your counsellor a specialist in anxiety disorders for children. I highly recommend you try and find a specialist in this field and getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion to ensure you have the proper diagnosis. There are many doctors and psychologists who know very little about child anxiety. I truly understand the pressure this is placing on your family. My 11 year old niece was just diagnosed with OCD and the family is considering going to family counselling due to the pressure and turmoil it has caused them all trying to understand, cope and support their child. take care and let us know how your daughter is going. I am quickly searching for some links about anxiety in children which may help you. OK here are some that were given to me recently: http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/ For Friends/family http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/forfriendsfamily/ Youth Anxiety http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthanxiety/ Vanessa
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sorry I was not in a good mood. I understand it in a limited sense, but in a way I think its a buzz word .
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what the heck is with cognetive therapy with this group. I don’t know a soul with bad anxiety in therapy with cognitive therapy. I get newletters all the time from whole food markets and no one is advertising for cognitive therapy out of thousands of ads. Irrelevant. I base my recommendations on what has worked for me as have many others. There are many kinds of illness and I can’t believe cognitive therapy will help someone with a adrenalin rush learned early on or from heredity. How do you know it is only an adrenalin rush? Even if it is this child may have developed irrational thought associated with school and using behaviour patterns that can take control of her life without intervention. Dont’ forget that there is a B, in CBT therapy —- B = behaviour….so it’s not just cognitive therapy. I personally would try slow sensitivity like Elise talked about .. Steve, would it surprise you to know that this technique is part of cognitive behavioural therapy??? You don’t need cognitive therapy for this little girl for Gods sake! CBT has been recommended for my 11 year old niece for her obsessive compulsive disorder. I used CBT to help my own son who developed a fear of storms when he was only 6 years old. CBT can be modified for the individual needs of the child/adult. It may as simple as gradual exposure, all depends on the individual. As you have said many a times, whatever helps for each person. V Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard enough for us adults to manage our anxiety disorders let alone an 8 year old. You say the therapy is not helping but 3 sessions is not enough to evaluate progress, as it may take some time for your daughter to learn the skills to manage the anxiety. Setbacks are part of the process to recovery so don’t give up due to this horrible episode this morning. Re medication – for severe cases this may be necessary and can be combined effectively with cognitive behavioural therapy (assuming this is the type of therapy being used for your daughter – if not I highly recommend it). I personally would continue with cognitive behavioural therapy a little longer prior to trying medication, but if it is severe GAD then medication may be worth considering. Also is your counsellor a specialist in anxiety disorders for children. I highly recommend you try and find a specialist in this field and getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion to ensure you have the proper diagnosis. There are many doctors and psychologists who know very little about child anxiety. I truly understand the pressure this is placing on your family. My 11 year old niece was just diagnosed with OCD and the family is considering going to family counselling due to the pressure and turmoil it has caused them all trying to understand, cope and support their child. take care and let us know how your daughter is going. I am quickly searching for some links about anxiety in children which may help you. OK here are some that were given to me recently:
http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/ For Friends/family
http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/forfriendsfamily/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Youth Anxiety http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthanxiety/ Vanessa
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Hi Steve As I was reading your reply to vanessa about doing so much work both physically and mentally it really started me thinking just how much hard work it does take to stay on top of these disorders. It did take CBT therapy and medicine for me to get started on the right track. Now it takes a combination of medicine and eating right,exercise,yoga,meditation,and self hypnosis just to keep me functional. No one can really tell another person what will work for them because no two people react the same way to the different treatments. The only thing we can do is share what has worked for us. Its mostly a trial and error kind of thing. You keep trying until you find what works for you and then you stick with it. I am glad the exercise works for you and gives you some relief from the anxiety. I do hope someday you can get to the point where it works for you without your having to completely exhaust yourself by running such long distances. By the way how is your asthma doing. I know this is usually a bad time of year for asthma sufferers. Hope yours is doing better Deb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sorry I was not in a good mood. I understand it in a limited sense, but in a way I think its a buzz word . It’s not a buzz word but I do think I understand what you mean. If I was new to anxiety and to this group I’d be thinking this must be some magic cure the way we all go on about it. Hope your mood improves I just seem Vanessa, to do so much work physically and mentally that the one word seems too easy to sum up what works at least to me. So much depends on who is doing the therapy and then there is the type of therapy and then the meds and then you might make hay out of it all if you can afford the therapist and then even then I doubt it would work for me.Maybe everyone has a different form of anxiety then I do. I admit mine is pretty strong . I think I get upset and take it personally because I probably fell into the chronic condition where virtually little worked. Whether what I received in therapy in the past was desensitivity or psychotherapy or cognitive therapy, I am pretty sure I had it. The only things that work for me now is winging it and taking everything from the past I learned and it takes everything together for me to just exist without total dysfunction . One might tell me to find a good cognitive therapist but hey it just sounds so variable. I am not against someone getting what they need and even calling it cognitive, it just sounds so easy . I almost need to physically be slowed down by exercise and thats it or strong drugs. I am not at that stage again yet. I am getting off of caffeine and this has not helped but I realize sometimes it takes months for withdrawl to take place. I don’t know, its all winging it.thanks for listening
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sorry I was not in a good mood. I understand it in a limited sense, but in a way I think its a buzz word .
It’s not a buzz word but I do think I understand what you mean. If I was new to anxiety and to this group I’d be thinking this must be some magic cure the way we all go on about it. Hope your mood improves
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sorry I was not in a good mood. I understand it in a limited sense, but in a way I think its a buzz word . It’s not a buzz word but I do think I understand what you mean. If I was new to anxiety and to this group I’d be thinking this must be some magic cure the way we all go on about it. Hope your mood improves I just seem Vanessa, to do so much work physically and mentally that the
one word seems too easy to sum up what works at least to me. So much depends on who is doing the therapy and then there is the type of therapy and then the meds and then you might make hay out of it all if you can afford the therapist and then even then I doubt it would work for me.Maybe everyone has a different form of anxiety then I do. I admit mine is pretty strong . I think I get upset and take it personally because I probably fell into the chronic condition where virtually little worked. Whether what I received in therapy in the past was desensitivity or psychotherapy or cognitive therapy, I am pretty sure I had it. The only things that work for me now is winging it and taking everything from the past I learned and it takes everything together for me to just exist without total dysfunction . One might tell me to find a good cognitive therapist but hey it just sounds so variable. I am not against someone getting what they need and even calling it cognitive, it just sounds so easy . I almost need to physically be slowed down by exercise and thats it or strong drugs. I am not at that stage again yet. I am getting off of caffeine and this has not helped but I realize sometimes it takes months for withdrawl to take place. I don’t know, its all winging it.thanks for listening – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you
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Hi, I work for an agency that works within the school districts. We have mental health counselors in each district. There was a child who also had separation anxiety just like your daughter. What helped in her situation was that the parent would bring the child to school each day and the counselor would meet them at the door. At first she would do the normal crying, temper tantrums and whatever. Little by little she became adjusted to the routine of meeting the counselor at the door and slowly worked her way into her classes. Now she is able to go to school without anyone bringing her or meeting her at the door. It was basically desensitizing her to the school setting. She came to realize that she wasn’t in any harm, the school was a safe place and that at the end of the day her parents were still there when she got home from school. smiles, Elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you
I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard enough for us adults to manage our anxiety disorders let alone an 8 year old. You say the therapy is not helping but 3 sessions is not enough to evaluate progress, as it may take some time for your daughter to learn the skills to manage the anxiety. Setbacks are part of the process to recovery so don’t give up due to this horrible episode this morning. Re medication – for severe cases this may be necessary and can be combined effectively with cognitive behavioural therapy (assuming this is the type of therapy being used for your daughter – if not I highly recommend it). I personally would continue with cognitive behavioural therapy a little longer prior to trying medication, but if it is severe GAD then medication may be worth considering. Also is your counsellor a specialist in anxiety disorders for children. I highly recommend you try and find a specialist in this field and getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion to ensure you have the proper diagnosis. There are many doctors and psychologists who know very little about child anxiety. I truly understand the pressure this is placing on your family. My 11 year old niece was just diagnosed with OCD and the family is considering going to family counselling due to the pressure and turmoil it has caused them all trying to understand, cope and support their child. take care and let us know how your daughter is going. I am quickly searching for some links about anxiety in children which may help you. OK here are some that were given to me recently: http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/ For Friends/family http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/forfriendsfamily/ Youth Anxiety http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthanxiety/ Vanessa
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what the heck is with cognetive therapy with this group. I don’t know a soul with bad anxiety in therapy with cognitive therapy. I get newletters all the time from whole food markets and no one is advertising for cognitive therapy out of thousands of ads.
Irrelevant. I base my recommendations on what has worked for me as have many others. There are many kinds of illness and I can’t believe cognitive therapy will help someone with a adrenalin rush learned early on or from heredity.
How do you know it is only an adrenalin rush? Even if it is this child may have developed irrational thought associated with school and using behaviour patterns that can take control of her life without intervention. Dont’ forget that there is a B, in CBT therapy —- B = behaviour….so it’s not just cognitive therapy. I personally would try slow sensitivity like Elise talked about ..
Steve, would it surprise you to know that this technique is part of cognitive behavioural therapy??? You don’t need cognitive therapy for this little girl for Gods sake!
CBT has been recommended for my 11 year old niece for her obsessive compulsive disorder. I used CBT to help my own son who developed a fear of storms when he was only 6 years old. CBT can be modified for the individual needs of the child/adult. It may as simple as gradual exposure, all depends on the individual. As you have said many a times, whatever helps for each person. V – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard enough for us adults to manage our anxiety disorders let alone an 8 year old. You say the therapy is not helping but 3 sessions is not enough to evaluate progress, as it may take some time for your daughter to learn the skills to manage the anxiety. Setbacks are part of the process to recovery so don’t give up due to this horrible episode this morning. Re medication – for severe cases this may be necessary and can be combined effectively with cognitive behavioural therapy (assuming this is the type of therapy being used for your daughter – if not I highly recommend it). I personally would continue with cognitive behavioural therapy a little longer prior to trying medication, but if it is severe GAD then medication may be worth considering. Also is your counsellor a specialist in anxiety disorders for children. I highly recommend you try and find a specialist in this field and getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion to ensure you have the proper diagnosis. There are many doctors and psychologists who know very little about child anxiety. I truly understand the pressure this is placing on your family. My 11 year old niece was just diagnosed with OCD and the family is considering going to family counselling due to the pressure and turmoil it has caused them all trying to understand, cope and support their child. take care and let us know how your daughter is going. I am quickly searching for some links about anxiety in children which may help you. OK here are some that were given to me recently: http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/ For Friends/family http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/forfriendsfamily/ Youth Anxiety http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthanxiety/ Vanessa
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I just want to second Vanessa’s opinion re finding a cognitive-behavioral therapist who has a good track record with children. I do CBT online and in the office with adults, and I’ve worked with children in the past, but I have to wing it when I need to do CBT with children. It’s a real skill. I do not believe that play therapy helps school phobic children. BTW: I was extremely school phobic during my Kindergarten year. I still remember it vividly. Best wishes. http://www.syzygy-counseling.com
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what the heck is with cognetive therapy with this group. I don’t know a soul with bad anxiety in therapy with cognitive therapy. I get newletters all the time from whole food markets and no one is advertising for cognitive therapy out of thousands of ads. There are many kinds of illness and I can’t believe cognitive therapy will help someone with a adrenalin rush learned early on or from heredity. I personally would try slow sensitivity like Elise talked about .. You don’t need cognitive therapy for this little girl for Gods sake!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I am new here. I came here hoping that someone is going through the same thing me and my husband is going through with our 8 year old daughter. We believe she has Sepertion Anxiety Disorder and a General anxiety disorder. Mental disorders runs on my husbands side. We think she has inherited these problems. Mornings before school are dreadful! I will try to make this short if possible. She will plead and throw temper tantrums. She will cry from the time she wakes up. She also gets physical symptons such as stomach upset, headache, etc. We have had to physically take into school. We have ruled out any abuse and bullies. She sees the counselor at school on as needed basis. We have taken her to a Pyscologist 3 times. Counseling alone is not helping as she had one of her worst episodes this morning. The Dr believes medicine will help her. I have said this all along only because my husbands family. Husband has panic disorder. Uncle is Bipolar deprssive. Most people do not understand how severe this problem is. It is affecting our jobs also. Please share any thoughts or stories. Thank you I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard enough for us adults to manage our anxiety disorders let alone an 8 year old. You say the therapy is not helping but 3 sessions is not enough to evaluate progress, as it may take some time for your daughter to learn the skills to manage the anxiety. Setbacks are part of the process to recovery so don’t give up due to this horrible episode this morning. Re medication – for severe cases this may be necessary and can be combined effectively with cognitive behavioural therapy (assuming this is the type of therapy being used for your daughter – if not I highly recommend it). I personally would continue with cognitive behavioural therapy a little longer prior to trying medication, but if it is severe GAD then medication may be worth considering. Also is your counsellor a specialist in anxiety disorders for children. I highly recommend you try and find a specialist in this field and getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion to ensure you have the proper diagnosis. There are many doctors and psychologists who know very little about child anxiety. I truly understand the pressure this is placing on your family. My 11 year old niece was just diagnosed with OCD and the family is considering going to family counselling due to the pressure and turmoil it has caused them all trying to understand, cope and support their child. take care and let us know how your daughter is going. I am quickly searching for some links about anxiety in children which may help you. OK here are some that were given to me recently: http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/ For Friends/family http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/forfriendsfamily/ Youth Anxiety http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthanxiety/ Vanessa
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