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Most black-and-white photo chemicals are not volatile.  There are only 3 things that might get into the air: (1) Powders from any powdered chemical.  This shouldn’t happen; if it does, you’re damaging your photographic materials, not just your lungs. (2) Many people are sensitive to acetic acid fumes (stop bath).  I’m one of them; to keep from getting asthma attacks I switched to a citric acid stop bath.  Could this be your problem?  Plain water works as a stop bath; you might try it.  (Change it frequently.) (3) Sulfur dioxide (or some similar-smelling chemical) fumes from fixer. Not much of a problem with a non-hardening fixer (Ilford Universal).  Again, switching to a plain water stop bath will, if I recall correctly, greatly reduce the emission of this gas. I do not know of any black-and-white chemicals in current widespread use that are highly toxic.  Allergy to Metol (a developing agent) is common, but as far as I know it’s a skin reaction, not a problem with fumes. — Michael A. Covington – Artificial Intelligence Center – University of Georgia http://www.ai.uga.edu/~mc  http://www.mindspring.com/~covington  <<

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Does anybody have any information about asthma and bronchitis being caused by exposure to any levels of photo chemical fumes, especially through innadequate ventilation (poor general instead of proper general or local ventilation)? I was feeling fine with no significant health problems until I started working in an in-house graphic arts photo lab at a big company in North Carolina in early 1992.  Prior to starting that job, I was last sick with respiratory problems in 1987, and before that in early 1984.  I should point out that the ventilation in these darkrooms was poorly-designed general ventilation for office spaces (these darkrooms were converted from offices). The company says that the ventilation in my darkroom was professionally designed and exceeded all standards for darkroom air flow volume (but not for air quality – which was never tested). After I started working at this job in April 1992, I started having a heavy flow of mucus and coughing in the Summer of 1992, and then started to get sick (either with infections or with heavy coughing and going hoarse) every couple of months.  After moving into a new building (which I presume had darkroom ventilation designed to modern standards) in early 1993, another co-worker had her lab ventilation system changed by the installation of an electrostatic air-scrubber, which did nothing to eliminate the smell of the fumes. My darkroom ventilation wasn’t touched at that time.  After this co-workers had a miscarriage in early 1994, the company installed local ventilation in her darkroom but wouldn’t do the same for me because I wasn’t a woman and couldn’t get pregnant.   After I thought there was a link to the chemical fumes in the Summer of 1994 (after reading the Rossol & Shaw book on dangers in the photographic workplace), I went to an allergist, who told me that my problems weren’t the results of allergies but were chronic most likely due to occupational exposure.  After hearing this, I started wearing a respiratory mask.  And after I threatened to make a complaint to OSHA, my employer promissed to fix the problem by installing local ventilation (without ever doing any air quality tests) within three months.  After the three months went by with no work being done, I started to seek more medical help outside my company.  I was fired in May 1995 and the company installed something that looked like a local ventilation system a few days after I was fired.  They never used that darkroom again after installing the new ventilation system, and in June 1998 they tore out the old processors and the new ventilation system shortly after hearing that my lawyer and I wanted to inspect and photograph the premisis. Any help and/or information would be apprciated.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anybody have any information about asthma and bronchitis being caused by exposure to any levels of photo chemical fumes, especially through innadequate ventilation (poor general instead of proper general or local ventilation)? I was feeling fine with no significant health problems until I started working in an in-house graphic arts photo lab at a big company in North Carolina in early 1992.  Prior to starting that job, I was last sick with respiratory problems in 1987, and before that in early 1984.  I should point out that the ventilation in these darkrooms was poorly-designed general ventilation for office spaces (these darkrooms were converted from offices). The company says that the ventilation in my darkroom was professionally designed and exceeded all standards for darkroom air flow volume (but not for air quality – which was never tested). After I started working at this job in April 1992, I started having a heavy flow of mucus and coughing in the Summer of 1992, and then started to get sick (either with infections or with heavy coughing and going hoarse) every couple of months.  After moving into a new building (which I presume had darkroom ventilation designed to modern standards) in early 1993, another co-worker had her lab ventilation system changed by the installation of an electrostatic air-scrubber, which did nothing to eliminate the smell of the fumes. My darkroom ventilation wasn’t touched at that time.  After this co-workers had a miscarriage in early 1994, the company installed local ventilation in her darkroom but wouldn’t do the same for me because I wasn’t a woman and couldn’t get pregnant.   After I thought there was a link to the chemical fumes in the Summer of 1994 (after reading the Rossol & Shaw book on dangers in the photographic workplace), I went to an allergist, who told me that my problems weren’t the results of allergies but were chronic most likely due to occupational exposure.  After hearing this, I started wearing a respiratory mask.  And after I threatened to make a complaint to OSHA, my employer promissed to fix the problem by installing local ventilation (without ever doing any air quality tests) within three months.  After the three months went by with no work being done, I started to seek more medical help outside my company.  I was fired in May 1995 and the company installed something that looked like a local ventilation system a few days after I was fired.  They never used that darkroom again after installing the new ventilation system, and in June 1998 they tore out the old processors and the new ventilation system shortly after hearing that my lawyer and I wanted to inspect and photograph the premisis. Any help and/or information would be apprciated.

  Sodium Sulfite is notorious for setting off asthma and bronchitis in people who are sensitive to it.  Sulfite is used in both developers and fixing baths and also in color chemicals.  Sulfites are also sometimes used as preservatives (anti-oxidents) in food, particularly in meat, dried fruit, and wine.  It can cause very strong reactions in those sensitive to it.     Sulfur dioxide gas is also evolved from some solutions, particularly some fixing baths.  This can be very irrating and is a trigger for Asthma in many sufferers.  There are "oderless" fixing baths which do not evolve this gas.   Beyond that there are probably several other chemicals which may affect some people.  Certainly some developing agents, particulary Metol and Hydroquinone are sensitizers.  While the most frequent symptom is an exzema-like rash it could affect some people in other ways.   Until a few years ago many color processes included Formaldahyde. The fumes from this can definitely cause resperatory problems. Current chemistry for the most part contains substitutes for it.   BTW the Rossol & Shaw book has been criticized for having many innacuracies.  A good MD specialist in alergies should be familiar with the hazards of photo chemicals. — Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, Ca.

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I’ve heard some women say "All men are rats." Would that count a a specific circumstance? **_**_**_**_**_**_**_**_**_**_**_**_** Jack Rodgers  <jrodg…@bellsouth.net

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There has been recent research showing that it works on rats in certain specific circumstances.

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I have been dealing with tinnitus for at least 32 years and not knowing what the cause was or how to solve the problem. It was not till Jan/98 that I found the answers to what the name of this problem was also at the same time it was suggested that Gingdo and Siberian Gensing together would solve the problem. Starting in March and it took 2 months to get things working. I was told that could take up to 3 months as it is a slow acting herb. So other than when I think I can stop taking it, it is the only time I get TINNITUS back. So I expect I will be using this product for a long time coming. — One does not plan and then try to make the circumstances fit those plans. One tries to make plans fit the circumstances John Carson and/or Holly Carson         John_Car…@bc.sympatico.ca                                         Internet Chat program – icq# 5389670

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Here are some old posts for those of you interested in Ginkgo. I’m not plugging for or against it particularly. Some folks find it works some say the opposite.  There has been recent research showing that it works on rats in certain specific circumstances. Tony Some good animations under "how the hearing system works" on my tinnitus website: http://members.aol.com/tonyjeffs/index.htm …………………………………………………………… Subject:        Re: Ginkgo Biloba From:   myrn…@concentric.net (Myrna B) Date:   25 Aug 1998 23:39:47 PDT I started taking Ginko Biloba sometime ago because I heard that it helps to reduce tinnitus.  It took about 5 or 6 weeks, but I suddenly realized one day that my symptoms were GREATLY relieved.  I just take one pill a day. I am not sure of the dose, but I buy the stuff at Trader Joes where it is quite inexpensive.  I also have noticed some improvement in my memory. Hope this helps. Myrna ……………………………………………………………….. ………. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

bject:      Ginkgo Revisted From:       "BRUCE MARSDEN" <BruceDMars…@worldnet.att.net Date:       Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:12:30 -0500 I appreciated reading the posts that provided warnings regarding the safety of ginkgo biloba.  Apparently nosebleeds and rashes were the alleged culprits emanating from the use of ginkgo.  However, it is an uncontrovertible fact that for the vast majority of people who use ginkgo, and world-wide that number is considerable, that it has been overwhelmingly safe.  There as been a consensus about this in the scientific community for some time.  Ginkgo is widely used in Europe, in Germany alone gingko is the number one prescribed herb with sales well in excess of 300 million dollars in 1996.  Because it is so widely used in Europe researchers there have been studying it since the 1960’s.  There are more than two dozen double blind placebo controlled trials in humans all of which have supported its safety. Alas, even the US FDA which is quite conservative on the subject of herbs, regards gingko as very safe.  Unfortunately, like most herbs, there is not a PDR that you can consult that tells you what the counterindications and drug interactions are.  To my knowledge there are no reports of adverse effects in the scientific literature.  That is to say that the incidence of "problems" is considered to be statistically insignificant.  Having said that, if you have experienced a problem the very notion of "statistical insignificance" becomes in itself insignificant. I want to stress that I am not an advocate for ginkgo.  In fact I am very skeptical of almost all of the so-called herbal cures.  The efficacy of using ginkgo for T is at best very dubious.  But there has been some anecdotal evidence of achieving positive results.  I do not think people should be discouraged from giving it a try on the basis of safety concerns. Again I would like to thank those that posted their concerns about the safety of ginkgo.  The free exchange of information means everything to me. Bruce ——————- Headers ——————– Path: lobby01.news.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!news-peer

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………………………………. Gingko Biloba Gingko biloba leaves have been used therapeutically by the Chinese for centuries for the treatment of asthma and bronchitis. In western countries a standardized 50:1 concentrate of 24% gingko flavoglycosides is used, either in liquid or capsule form. Gingko has been shown to increase circulation throughout the body and the brain. The article "Ginkgo biloba", The Lancet, Vol 340, Nov 7, 1992, pp. 1136-1139, examines numerous studies on the efficacy of ginkgo on intermittent claudication (pain while walking), and cerebral insufficiency, a wide collection of vascular impairment symptoms including tinnitus. Typical dosages range from 120-160mg per day, divided equally at meal time. Most studies showed that between 30-70% of subjects had reduced symptoms over a 6-12 week period. No serious side effects were observed, and any minor side effects were not statistically significant compared to subjects treated only with placebo. Other references on gingko biloba: As to tinnitus, Hobbs in reference (1) says: For example, in 1986 a study statistically proved the effectiveness of treatment with ginkgo extract for tinnitus: the ringing completely disappeared in 35% of the patients tested, with a distinct improvement in as little as 70 days!(2) Similarly, when 350 patients with hearing defects due to old age were treated with ginkgo extract, the success rate was 82%. Furthermore, a follow-up study of 137 of the original group of elderly patients 5 years later revealed that 67% still had better hearing(3). References      1.) Ginkgo Elixir of Youth; Christopher Hobbs; Botanica Press, Box 742, Capitola,      CA 95010; 1991; pages 50-51      2.) Tinnitus-multicenter study. A multicentric study of the ear; Meyer, B.; 1980; Ann.      Oto-Laryng. (Paris) 103:185-8      3.) Tebonin-therapy with old hard-of-hearing people. Koeppel, F. W.; 1980;      Therapiewoche 30: 6443-46 TonyJeffs Liverpool UK

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My grandmother (86) has many health problems. Congestive heart failure, dizziness, fatigue, degrading memory, confusion. I understand that Ginko can help circulation and especially the brain circulation. Her doctor is Chinese but does not personally know about Ginko and how it would interact with her digoxin (sp?), and other meds. He knows someone with experience in traditional Chinese medicine and I need to get the Chinese name for Ginko Biloba for him. Does anyone know what this might me? Any other info on Ginko would also be appreciated. Thanks.      Via  ENABEL – Communications & Information Network

Here’s some info:  * gingko biloba      Gingko biloba leaves have been used therapeutically by the Chinese for      centuries for the treatment of asthma and bronchitis. In western countries      a standardized 50:1 concentrate of 24% gingko flavoglycosides is used,      either in liquid or capsule form. Gingko has been shown to increase      circulation throughout the body and the brain.      The article "Ginkgo biloba", The Lancet, Vol 340, Nov 7, 1992, pp.      1136-1139, examines numerous studies on the efficacy of ginkgo on      intermittent claudication (pain while walking), and cerebral      insufficiency, a wide collection of vascular impairment symptoms including      tinnitus. Typical dosages range from 120-160mg per day, divided equally at      meal time.      Most studies showed that between 30-70% of subjects had reduced symptoms      over a 6-12 week period. No serious side effects were observed, and any      minor side effects were not statistically significant compared to subjects      treated only with placebo.      Other references on gingko biloba:      As to tinnitus, Hobbs in reference (1) says:      For example, in 1986 a study statistically proved the effectiveness of      treatment with ginkgo extract for tinnitus: the ringing completely      disappeared in 35% of the patients tested, with a distinct improvement in      as little as 70 days!(2)      Similarly, when 350 patients with hearing defects due to old age were      treated with ginkgo extract, the success rate was 82%. Furthermore, a      follow-up study of 137 of the original group of elderly patients 5 years      later revealed that 67% still had better hearing(3).      References      1.) Ginkgo Elixir of Youth; Christopher Hobbs; Botanica Press, Box 742,      Capitola, CA 95010; 1991; pages 50-51      2.) Tinnitus-multicenter study. A multicentric study of the ear; Meyer,      B.; 1980; Ann. Oto-Laryng. (Paris) 103:185-8      3.) Tebonin-therapy with old hard-of-hearing people. Koeppel, F. W.; 1980;      Therapiewoche 30: 6443-46      Here’s an abstract of a recent paper in Audiology:           Holgers KM; Axelsson A; Pringle I           Ginkgo biloba extract for the treatment of tinnitus.           Department of Audiology, Sahlgren’s Hospital, Goteborg, Sweden.           Language: Eng           Source: Audiology 1994 Mar-Apr;33(2):85-92           Unique Identifier: 94234927           Abstract:           Previous studies have shown contradictory results of Ginkgo           biloba extract (GBE) treatment of tinnitus. The present study           was divided into two parts: first an open part, without placebo           control (n = 80), followed by a double-blind placebo-controlled           study (n = 20). The patients included in the open study were           patients who had been referred to the Department of Audiology,           Sahlgren’s Hospital, Goteborg, Sweden, due to persistent severe           tinnitus. Patients reporting a positive effect on tinnitus in           the open study were included in the double-blind           placebo-controlled study (20 out of 21 patients participated). 7           patients preferred GBE to placebo, 7 placebo to GBE and 6           patients had no preference. Statistical group analysis gives no           support to the hypothesis that GBE has any effect on tinnitus,           although it is possible that GBE has an effect on some patients           due to several reasons, e.g. the diverse etiology of tinnitus.           Since there is no objective method to measure the symptom, the           search for an effective drug can only be made on an individual           basis.      And still another abstract:           I searched the medline for your using PHYSICIANS ON LINE           software, from 1988 to present obtained the following:           Remacle J, Houbion A, Alexandre I, Michiels C           [Behavior of human endothelial cells in hyperoxia and hypoxia:           effect of Ginkor Fort]           Laboratoire de Biochimie Cellulaire, Facultes Universitaires           N.D. de la Paix, Namur, Belgique.           Phlebologie 1990 Apr-Jun;43(2):375-86           Article Number: UI91046351           ABSTRACT:           Recent discoveries have shown that venous diseases have a           multifactorial etiology. One of the factors which is definitely           involved in this pathologic process is the change in the           concentration of oxygen. An increase in the concentration of           oxygen, hyperoxia, or reoxygenation following hypoxia, damages           the tissues by stepping up the production of free radicals. In           addition, a reduction in oxygen concentration, or hypoxia, is           also damaging, probably through a reduction in ATP synthesis.           From a therapeutic standpoint, the veins, and more particularly           the endothelium, must be protected against the impact on the           tissue of these changes in oxygen concentration. In this study,           the effects of Ginkor Fort were tested on cultured endothelial           cells subjected to varying oxygen pressures. The results show           that Ginkor Fort can provide good protection of endothelial           cells against hyperoxia and hypoxia-reoxygenation. These           beneficial effects are probably due to the presence of           flavonoids in the **Ginko** biloba extract; these flavonoids           have an anti-oxidant effect. In addition, this substance also           protects the cells against hypoxia, possibly by increasing the           availability of oxygen for ATP synthesis. This dual protective           effect, which is produced by two different mechanisms, may           account for the wide spectrum of Ginkor Fort in its use in           venous diseases.      Despite the above quotes, one prominent American tinnitus specialist says      that gingko does no better in rigorous scientific studies than a placebo      effect of 5%. "A fortunate one"

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My grandmother (86) has many health problems. Congestive heart failure, dizziness, fatigue, degrading memory, confusion. I understand that Ginko can help circulation and especially the brain circulation. Her doctor is Chinese but does not personally know about Ginko and how it would interact with her digoxin (sp?), and other meds. He knows someone with experience in traditional Chinese medicine and I need to get the Chinese name for Ginko Biloba for him. Does anyone know what this might me? Any other info on Ginko would also be appreciated. Thanks.       Via  ENABEL – Communications & Information Network

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I would like to know about ginkgo biloba.  Are there health benefits?

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yes.

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I would like to know about gingko biloba.  Are there health benefits?

I think so, but I can’t remember.  Haven’t taken any for awhile. jaks007

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I would like to know about gingko biloba.  Are there health benefits? I think so, but I can’t remember.  Haven’t taken any for awhile. jaks007

Hello Jaks007, The reason you can’t remember is because you haven’t taken your ginkgo biloba regularly. It is a powerful antioxidant and free radical scavenger used widely in Europe for many years to boost the immune system.         Regards, Ralph in sunny West Phoenix.

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: yes. Could you develop, please ?

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I would like to know about gingko biloba.  Are there health benefits? I think so, but I can’t remember.  Haven’t taken any for awhile. jaks007

Here’s some info,from the Tinnitus FAQ.    * gingko biloba      Gingko biloba leaves have been used therapeutically by the Chinese for      centuries for the treatment of asthma and bronchitis. In western countries      a standardized 50:1 concentrate of 24% gingko flavoglycosides is used,      either in liquid or capsule form. Gingko has been shown to increase      circulation throughout the body and the brain.      The article "Ginkgo biloba", The Lancet, Vol 340, Nov 7, 1992, pp.      1136-1139, examines numerous studies on the efficacy of ginkgo on      intermittent claudication (pain while walking), and cerebral      insufficiency, a wide collection of vascular impairment symptoms including      tinnitus. Typical dosages range from 120-160mg per day, divided equally at      meal time.      Most studies showed that between 30-70% of subjects had reduced symptoms      over a 6-12 week period. No serious side effects were observed, and any      minor side effects were not statistically significant compared to subjects      treated only with placebo.      Other references on gingko biloba:      As to tinnitus, Hobbs in reference (1) says:      For example, in 1986 a study statistically proved the effectiveness of      treatment with ginkgo extract for tinnitus: the ringing completely      disappeared in 35% of the patients tested, with a distinct improvement in      as little as 70 days!(2)      Similarly, when 350 patients with hearing defects due to old age were      treated with ginkgo extract, the success rate was 82%. Furthermore, a      follow-up study of 137 of the original group of elderly patients 5 years      later revealed that 67% still had better hearing(3). — "A fortunate one"

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I would like to know about ginkgo biloba.  Are there health benefits?

Yes.  My wife started taking it about 6 months ago. (I must admit, I was a little skeptical at first 8^/) But we both noticed immediate results in her consentration and overall ability to focus.  Since she has trouble breathing most of the time, (thus not as much oxygen gets to the brains cells as fast as the rest of us) her doctor suggested GB.  Now she can remember much more than she could before.  I even started taking it myself, now.  It works! However, recently we’ve discovered this other health product called Formula One that has GB in it along with some additional herbal products, like Guarana.  We started getting it from a woman out of St. Louis.  Its cheaper than GNC and other health food stores I’ve been to lately, and the results have been worth it.  I could hook you up with her if you’re interested.  Just e-mail me at my net address — Eric

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I would like to know about gingko biloba.  Are there health benefits?

  Ginkgo biloba increases blood flow to the brain, heart muscle, and other   parts of the body.  According to THE HEALING HERBS, by Michael Castleman,   ginkgo interferes with a platelet activation factor (PAF) substance   that is involved in clotting.  Thus it is particularly helpful in   preventing stroke, heart attack, intermittent claudication, among   other things.  And it is said to improve memory.  It should not be taken   by people who have clotting disorders.  It is widely prescribed in   Europe by both herbalists and mainstream physicians. –rv    –Friedrich Schiller    | *Stars~Stamps~Stories*  What goes without saying usually needs to be said.

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A friend of mine recently ran a Medline search on gingko biloba.  Unlike many herbs, we found quite a few studies done on humans.  Almost all showed greater theraputic effect than placebo, although only one study compared gingko to the standard medications used for intermittant claudication.  It definitely increases blood flow as cited below; however its effects on the brain may be due to some other mechanism.  It’s not real clear why it improves memory and concentration.  But it does do so, at least for some people. No adverse effects of gingko have ever been reported in the literature.   This may be because it is not yet widely used, or because a registry of adverse gingko effects has not yet been set up.  One should probably use it with caution if you are taking any vasodilating drugs for angina, intermittant claudication (a painful condition of the lower leg, where not enough blood is delivered to meet exercise demand because of narrowing of the arteries) or hypertension, since it’s conceivable that it could have an additive effect to these drugs. I personally prefer the gingko extracts, which have a standardized % of gingkosides.  This avoids the problem found with so many herbal remedies of not being able to accurately determine dosage.

: : I would like to know about gingko biloba.  Are there health benefits? :   :   Ginkgo biloba increases blood flow to the brain, heart muscle, and other :   parts of the body.  According to THE HEALING HERBS, by Michael Castleman, :   ginkgo interferes with a platelet activation factor (PAF) substance :   that is involved in clotting.  Thus it is particularly helpful in :   preventing stroke, heart attack, intermittent claudication, among :   other things.  And it is said to improve memory.  It should not be taken :   by people who have clotting disorders.  It is widely prescribed in :   Europe by both herbalists and mainstream physicians. : –rv :    –Friedrich Schiller    | *Stars~Stamps~Stories* :  What goes without saying usually needs to be said. —         *Stop the execution of Mumia Abu Jamal: A new trial now!*         Shrine of the Cybernetic Madonna BBS  213-766-1356 "The board that Hates Rush Limbaugh *and* Newt Gingrich With A Passion"

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A friend of mine in Austin started taking Ginkgo biloba 3 weeks ago and about 10 days ago started experiencing pain in her joints. Could the 2 events be related? –  /   /   /

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B. Keys J.D. Ph.D) writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE Dear Thomas, Glutathione is a tripeptide molecule that consists of glycine, cysteine and glutamic acid.  Thiol compounds constitute its chemical precursors; these include N-Acetly-L-Cysteine, methionine, taurine, selenium (both organic and inorganic forms) taken with buffered Vitamin C.  High plasma glutathione levels are found in generally healthy (immunocompetent) individuals while low levels are found in people who are in some measure, immunocompromised.  A test for its presence is a detailed quantitative organic acid analysis, testing for analyte, solute and metabolite patterns. .In your situation concerning lung congestion, the idea is to enhance sulphur amino acid metabolism to raise plasma glutathione levels and to induce macrophage and lymphocyte systems to clear out your alveolar spaces (BLOW OUT YOUR PIPES). The specific metabolic detox pathways to be enhanced by thiol compound precursor loading include 1. methylation 2. glucouronidation 3. peptide conjugation 4. sulphur conjugation 5. acylation 6  acetylation Try dealing with downregulated metabolic pathways, circuits and loops responsible for the lung congestion by working out PATIENT-APPROPRIATE DOSE RESPONSE CURVES WITH THE THIOL COMPOUNDS, INSTEAD OF SUPPRESSING SYMPTHOMS. Presumptively, the real cause(s) of the lung congestion are likely to be suppressed sulphur amino acid metabolism.  Temporary pharmaceutical management may be justified in cases of broncospasm or other life endangering upper respiratory symptom; but enhancing sulphur amino acid metabolism  belongs in the clinical armamentarium for long term management of lung congestion  as part of the treatment strategy. ARE YOU GOING TO SUPPRESS THE SYMPTOMS OR TREAT THE REAL ILLNESS? The lung congestion in your case may be the weakest link in your immunologic chain. With other patients, the weak link will show up somewhere else as a chronicly re-occurring phenomena. The creative part of this ASSESSMENT WORK is FINDING THE REAL CAUSES OF THE ILLNESS. From the cutting edge, NYC (718) 460-3966 American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, International Association of Biomedical Gerontology, National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys, American Aging Association, American Academy of Clinical Gerontology, Life Extension Foundation, Trained: Psycho-analysis, Certified: Mediation & Counseling, Certified: Functional Assessments & Interventions, Certified: Interdisciplinary Geriatrics; Geriatric Assessment, Columbia University–NY Geriatric Education Center

Anybody at your institution looked at NAC supplementation and skin immune response in elders?  I proposed it once to the NIH and they weren’t interested.  Seems an easy and natural study, though.                                             Steve Harris, M.D.

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LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE ..In your situation concerning lung congestion, the idea is to enhance sulphur amino acid metabolism to raise plasma glutathione levels and to induce macrophage and lymphocyte systems to clear out your alveolar spaces (BLOW OUT YOUR PIPES).

Interesting…… Just a question- is this saying that macrophages and lymphocytes make it to the "air space" cavity in the lungs to do battle ? Didn’t realize they could live outside the body thanx- tom c.

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LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE Dear Thomas,

Thanks for the post… but after reading it, I hAVEN’T THE FOGGIEST IDEA AS TO WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING I MUGHT DO….. BTW,I’m not immunosupprest as far as I know.  My immune system seems to be just fine.  Thomas C. Waters "The views expressed here are mine, take what you like and leave the rest." "I always assume someone is queer unless they tell me otherwise. Straight society has been doing this in reverse forever, and I’m tired of it." *

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LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE Dear Thomas, Glutathione is a tripeptide molecule that consists of glycine, cysteine and glutamic acid.  Thiol compounds constitute its chemical precursors; these include N-Acetly-L-Cysteine, methionine, taurine, selenium (both organic and inorganic forms) taken with buffered Vitamin C.  High plasma glutathione levels are found in generally healthy (immunocompetent) individuals while low levels are found in people who are in some measure, immunocompromised.  A test for its presence is a detailed quantitative organic acid analysis, testing for analyte, solute and metabolite patterns. .In your situation concerning lung congestion, the idea is to enhance sulphur amino acid metabolism to raise plasma glutathione levels and to induce macrophage and lymphocyte systems to clear out your alveolar spaces (BLOW OUT YOUR PIPES). The specific metabolic detox pathways to be enhanced by thiol compound precursor loading include 1. methylation 2. glucouronidation 3. peptide conjugation 4. sulphur conjugation 5. acylation 6  acetylation Try dealing with downregulated metabolic pathways, circuits and loops responsible for the lung congestion by working out PATIENT-APPROPRIATE DOSE RESPONSE CURVES WITH THE THIOL COMPOUNDS, INSTEAD OF SUPPRESSING SYMPTHOMS. Presumptively, the real cause(s) of the lung congestion are likely to be suppressed sulphur amino acid metabolism.  Temporary pharmaceutical management may be justified in cases of broncospasm or other life endangering upper respiratory symptom; but enhancing sulphur amino acid metabolism  belongs in the clinical armamentarium for long term management of lung congestion  as part of the treatment strategy. ARE YOU GOING TO SUPPRESS THE SYMPTOMS OR TREAT THE REAL ILLNESS? The lung congestion in your case may be the weakest link in your immunologic chain. With other patients, the weak link will show up somewhere else as a chronicly re-occurring phenomena. The creative part of this ASSESSMENT WORK is FINDING THE REAL CAUSES OF THE ILLNESS. From the cutting edge, (718) 460-3966 American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, International Association of Biomedical Gerontology, National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys, American Aging Association, American Academy of Clinical Gerontology, Life Extension Foundation, Trained: Psycho-analysis, Certified: Mediation & Counseling, Certified: Functional Assessments & Interventions, Certified: Interdisciplinary Geriatrics; Geriatric Assessment, Columbia University–NY Geriatric Education Center

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Hi everybody, I suffer from chronic lung congestion that is kinda a mix of asthma and bronchitis.  Someone suggested smoking Mullein leaves, but I was really uncomfortable with that.  I have never smoked anything, really detest smoking, and I hated the taste it left in my mouth.  It didn’t seem to help too much either. I have periodically drank a tea of coltsfoot, but with very limited results. I have been on several pills and inhalers and would really like to minimize the drug intake. I am a vegetarian, eat very little dairy products, no milk…. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks  Thomas C. Waters "The views expressed here are mine, take what you like and leave the rest." "I always assume someone is queer unless they tell me otherwise. Straight society has been doing this in reverse forever, and I’m tired of it." *

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B. Keys J.D. Ph.D) writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE Dear Thomas, Glutathione is a tripeptide molecule that consists of glycine, cysteine and glutamic acid.  Thiol compounds constitute its chemical precursors; these include N-Acetly-L-Cysteine, methionine, taurine, selenium (both organic and inorganic forms) taken with buffered Vitamin C.  High plasma glutathione levels are found in generally healthy (immunocompetent) individuals while low levels are found in people who are in some measure, immunocompromised.  A test for its presence is a detailed quantitative organic acid analysis, testing for analyte, solute and metabolite patterns. .In your situation concerning lung congestion, the idea is to enhance sulphur amino acid metabolism to raise plasma glutathione levels and to induce macrophage and lymphocyte systems to clear out your alveolar spaces (BLOW OUT YOUR PIPES). The specific metabolic detox pathways to be enhanced by thiol compound precursor loading include 1. methylation 2. glucouronidation 3. peptide conjugation 4. sulphur conjugation 5. acylation 6  acetylation Try dealing with downregulated metabolic pathways, circuits and loops responsible for the lung congestion by working out PATIENT-APPROPRIATE DOSE RESPONSE CURVES WITH THE THIOL COMPOUNDS, INSTEAD OF SUPPRESSING SYMPTHOMS. Presumptively, the real cause(s) of the lung congestion are likely to be suppressed sulphur amino acid metabolism.  Temporary pharmaceutical management may be justified in cases of broncospasm or other life endangering upper respiratory symptom; but enhancing sulphur amino acid metabolism  belongs in the clinical armamentarium for long term management of lung congestion  as part of the treatment strategy. ARE YOU GOING TO SUPPRESS THE SYMPTOMS OR TREAT THE REAL ILLNESS? The lung congestion in your case may be the weakest link in your immunologic chain. With other patients, the weak link will show up somewhere else as a chronicly re-occurring phenomena. The creative part of this ASSESSMENT WORK is FINDING THE REAL CAUSES OF THE ILLNESS. From the cutting edge, NYC (718) 460-3966 American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, International Association of Biomedical Gerontology, National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys, American Aging Association, American Academy of Clinical Gerontology, Life Extension Foundation, Trained: Psycho-analysis, Certified: Mediation & Counseling, Certified: Functional Assessments & Interventions, Certified: Interdisciplinary Geriatrics; Geriatric Assessment, Columbia University–NY Geriatric Education Center

Anybody at your institution looked at NAC supplementation and skin immune response in elders?  I proposed it once to the NIH and they weren’t interested.  Seems an easy and natural study, though.                                             Steve Harris, M.D.

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LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE Dear Thomas,

Thanks for the post… but after reading it, I hAVEN’T THE FOGGIEST IDEA AS TO WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING I MUGHT DO….. BTW,I’m not immunosupprest as far as I know.  My immune system seems to be just fine.  Thomas C. Waters "The views expressed here are mine, take what you like and leave the rest." "I always assume someone is queer unless they tell me otherwise. Straight society has been doing this in reverse forever, and I’m tired of it." *

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LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE ..In your situation concerning lung congestion, the idea is to enhance sulphur amino acid metabolism to raise plasma glutathione levels and to induce macrophage and lymphocyte systems to clear out your alveolar spaces (BLOW OUT YOUR PIPES).

Interesting…… Just a question- is this saying that macrophages and lymphocytes make it to the "air space" cavity in the lungs to do battle ? Didn’t realize they could live outside the body thanx- tom c.

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Hi everybody, I suffer from chronic lung congestion that is kinda a mix of asthma and bronchitis.  Someone suggested smoking Mullein leaves, but I was really uncomfortable with that.  I have never smoked anything, really detest smoking, and I hated the taste it left in my mouth.  It didn’t seem to help too much either. I have periodically drank a tea of coltsfoot, but with very limited results. I have been on several pills and inhalers and would really like to minimize the drug intake. I am a vegetarian, eat very little dairy products, no milk…. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks  Thomas C. Waters "The views expressed here are mine, take what you like and leave the rest." "I always assume someone is queer unless they tell me otherwise. Straight society has been doing this in reverse forever, and I’m tired of it." *

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LUNG CONGESTION & PLASMA GLUTATHIONE Dear Thomas, Glutathione is a tripeptide molecule that consists of glycine, cysteine and glutamic acid.  Thiol compounds constitute its chemical precursors; these include N-Acetly-L-Cysteine, methionine, taurine, selenium (both organic and inorganic forms) taken with buffered Vitamin C.  High plasma glutathione levels are found in generally healthy (immunocompetent) individuals while low levels are found in people who are in some measure, immunocompromised.  A test for its presence is a detailed quantitative organic acid analysis, testing for analyte, solute and metabolite patterns. .In your situation concerning lung congestion, the idea is to enhance sulphur amino acid metabolism to raise plasma glutathione levels and to induce macrophage and lymphocyte systems to clear out your alveolar spaces (BLOW OUT YOUR PIPES). The specific metabolic detox pathways to be enhanced by thiol compound precursor loading include 1. methylation 2. glucouronidation 3. peptide conjugation 4. sulphur conjugation 5. acylation 6  acetylation Try dealing with downregulated metabolic pathways, circuits and loops responsible for the lung congestion by working out PATIENT-APPROPRIATE DOSE RESPONSE CURVES WITH THE THIOL COMPOUNDS, INSTEAD OF SUPPRESSING SYMPTHOMS. Presumptively, the real cause(s) of the lung congestion are likely to be suppressed sulphur amino acid metabolism.  Temporary pharmaceutical management may be justified in cases of broncospasm or other life endangering upper respiratory symptom; but enhancing sulphur amino acid metabolism  belongs in the clinical armamentarium for long term management of lung congestion  as part of the treatment strategy. ARE YOU GOING TO SUPPRESS THE SYMPTOMS OR TREAT THE REAL ILLNESS? The lung congestion in your case may be the weakest link in your immunologic chain. With other patients, the weak link will show up somewhere else as a chronicly re-occurring phenomena. The creative part of this ASSESSMENT WORK is FINDING THE REAL CAUSES OF THE ILLNESS. From the cutting edge, (718) 460-3966 American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, International Association of Biomedical Gerontology, National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys, American Aging Association, American Academy of Clinical Gerontology, Life Extension Foundation, Trained: Psycho-analysis, Certified: Mediation & Counseling, Certified: Functional Assessments & Interventions, Certified: Interdisciplinary Geriatrics; Geriatric Assessment, Columbia University–NY Geriatric Education Center

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