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the first reports I ever read or saw about this were in the Guardian newspaper and on the BBC…I consoider the Guardian to be fairly reliable in it’s science coverage, even more so with the BBC where I know two of the science correspomdents personally
You are much more confidant in the popular media than I am. I prefer to stick to source scientific references. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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I wonder if anyone else has the side effect of eating from sacs instead of a dish;i.e. if my husband opens peanuts or popcorn or patato chips fritos from the bag I get an attact but if he puts its contents in a dish I usually can enjoy along with him, he use to think I was making it up but now he knows it happens, any one elser find that to be a problem., I think its a small chemical reaction of sorts. frannymae http://community.webtv.net/frannymae/FRANSHOME
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got a few here Colin…as I said there are none directly related to asthma…but enough to cause me some concern about the amount of time what I eat spends encased in plastics http://www.chem-tox.com/infertility/infertility.htm
Somebody trying to sell a book. Odd how is name does not appear in a medline search. BTW, why are all of your references from the popular media? I would be much more impressed by actual citation references than opinions from reporters. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about
Question – how did you determine if these reports are reliable? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about Question – how did you determine if these reports are reliable? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
the first reports I ever read or saw about this were in the Guardian newspaper and on the BBC…I consoider the Guardian to be fairly reliable in it’s science coverage, even more so with the BBC where I know two of the science correspomdents personally whilst I’m not 100% convinced that I can take everything in USA Today as gospel I think New Scientist is fairly reliable though the fact that I know three former news editors of the publication may bias me slightly…it would be nice to be able to say that MSNBC are habitually inaccurate but I suspect that they are accurate enough in most of their reporting that anyone saying any such thing would be slaughtered in a slander case I chose those out of a large number of possibilities because they showed a range of what was on the web from a basic Infoseek search…I don’t have a lot of time to go digging into this so that’s going to have to do eric
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I wonder if anyone else has the side effect of eating from sacs instead of a dish;i.e. if my husband opens peanuts or popcorn or patato chips fritos from the bag I get an attact but if he puts its contents in a dish I usually can enjoy along with him, he use to think I was making it up but now he knows it happens, any one elser find that to be a problem., I think its a small chemical reaction of sorts. frannymae http://community.webtv.net/frannymae/FRANSHOME
it may also relate to how much "dust" is there from tiny fragments of the food…that would mostly get knocked off as they are poured into the dish just a thought eric
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message. got a few here Colin…as I said there are none directly related to asthma…but enough to cause me some concern about the amount of time what I eat spends encased in plastics http://www.chem-tox.com/infertility/infertility.htm http://www.endo-society.org/news_g/press/estrogen.htm http://www.usatoday.com/life/health/general/chemical/lhgch001.htm http://www.consumersunion.org/food/plasticny698.htm http://www.newscientist.com/nsplus/insight/fertility/dental.html http://www.msnbc.com/news/283162.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/215994.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/280170.asp that’s the results of about twenty minutes of looking for relevant reports the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about eric
I agree. That’s why I try to avoid them a bit. Especially in something I’m ingesting in one way or another….. Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? Your editing left MY name on this but none of it was written by me.
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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples?
Your editing left MY name on this but none of it was written by me. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
Colin…I haven’t time to do a search at the moment, but I’ll try to find time tomorrow…mostly I’m going from reports on the BBC and in the Guardian newspaper and both may well be archived online…the gist was that some chemicals regularly used in plastic wrapping were a greater cancer risk that originally thought, and that some plastics have decay products that are implicated in loss of fertility in animals…as I said, I haven’t seen anything regarding asthma, but generally research into the degradation of plastics didn’t really get going until the last fifteen years so I would expect a number of new reports over the next few years and for everyone…we aren’t talking a panic "I must never touch plastics again" sort of health risk here…it’s my understanding that it’s a very small increase in the risk of developing problems…however plastics are becoming so indispensable that it seems sensible to combine the needs of the environment to not get filled by very slowly degrading waste, and my own health…hence when I get the choice I buy things that aren’t wrapped in plastics eric
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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
got a few here Colin…as I said there are none directly related to asthma…but enough to cause me some concern about the amount of time what I eat spends encased in plastics http://www.chem-tox.com/infertility/infertility.htm http://www.endo-society.org/news_g/press/estrogen.htm http://www.usatoday.com/life/health/general/chemical/lhgch001.htm http://www.consumersunion.org/food/plasticny698.htm http://www.newscientist.com/nsplus/insight/fertility/dental.html http://www.msnbc.com/news/283162.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/215994.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/280170.asp that’s the results of about twenty minutes of looking for relevant reports the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about eric
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There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma. Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting. And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils.
I’d wait and see if this research actually produces results. A lot of things have changed in the past 30 years – are you going to avoid them also? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible
Can you give some examples? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma. Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting. And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. I’d wait and see if this research actually produces results. A lot of things have changed in the past 30 years – are you going to avoid them also?
Food tastes better out of china or pottery. Ditto on drinks. Try it for a while and you’ll notice a plastic taste when you switch back. If I can taste it, then why increase exposure to a possible problem? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are they if neither parent has asthma??? We went through this once before, I have no idea. Asthma has been known to skip generations. There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma. Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting. And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message. Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible
That’s why I said the researcher is checking out the "POSSIBLE ROLE". eric
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What are they if neither parent has asthma??? We went through this once before,
I have no idea. Asthma has been known to skip generations. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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What are they if neither parent has asthma??? We went through this once before, I have no idea. Asthma has been known to skip generations.
There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma. Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting. And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are they if neither parent has asthma??? We went through this once before, I have no idea. Asthma has been known to skip generations. There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma. Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting. And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message. Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God
the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible eric
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What are they if neither parent has asthma??? We went through this once before,
"The strength of association between childhood asthma and parental asthma was independent of the sex of either the parent or the child, and of atopic conditions in the child. In the 133 children for whom both parents were asthmatic, 65 (49%) had a history of asthma." Paediatr Perinat Epidemiol 1993 Jan;7(1):67-76 The associations between childhood asthma and atopy, and parental asthma, hay fever and smoking. Jenkins MA, Hopper JL, Flander LB, Carlin JB, Giles GG Actually, it is much more complicated than this. At the latest there were five specific genes associated with atopic disease. In addition it has been found that a mother is more likely to pass on the predisposition to atopy than a father. Just because approximately one-half of the kids in the above study were asthmatic when both parents were doesn’t mean one has a 50% probability of developing asthma if both parents were asthmatic, or a 25% probability if one parent was asthmatic. Or do you have a new reference or data?
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Hi All, Just wondered…. My son was born at 33 weeks gestation (they feel excessive stress from my father being in intensive care at the time helped cause him to be born early). I was just wondering…if anyone knew what the statistics are on asthma being inherited versus environmental? Also have you ever heard of premie’s being more likely to have asthma…then other babies(as the lungs are the last to develop)? Or do you think that my son’s severe asthma is concidental with his being born early and that asthma is mostly inherited? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Vicky
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Hi All, Just wondered…. My son was born at 33 weeks gestation (they feel excessive stress from my father being in intensive care at the time helped cause him to be born early). I was just wondering…if anyone knew what the statistics are on asthma being inherited versus environmental?
Asthma has been known to be an inherited disease for a while. But your environment plays a big role (just how big is still being debated) in the presentation of the disease. The odds on inheriting asthma are: (approximately) 25% if one parent has asthma 50% if both parents have asthma Also have you ever heard of premie’s being more likely to have asthma…then other babies(as the lungs are the last to develop)? Or do you think that my son’s severe asthma is concidental with his being born early and that asthma is mostly inherited?
A little of both perhaps? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.
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