Posts belonging to Category 'Causes Of Asthma'

Unscented hand lotion?

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I’m searching for some unscented hand lotion.  It seems that some of the lotions have a strong scent that sometimes causes an asthma attack. Does anyone know of any that I could search for in my area?

I use Neutrogena unscented. It’s found at Target and Wal-Mart. Joan

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I’m searching for some unscented hand lotion.  It seems that some of the lotions have a strong scent that sometimes causes an asthma attack. Does anyone know of any that I could search for in my area?

Aveeno

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Even without perfume some of the unsented brands bother me – I’ve found Walmart’s brand – Equate – to be safe  - similar to Luberderm (sp?). Sherry

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I’m searching for some unscented hand lotion.  It seems that some of the lotions have a strong scent that sometimes causes an asthma attack. Does anyone know of any that I could search for in my area?

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I’m searching for some unscented hand lotion.  It seems that some of the lotions have a strong scent that sometimes causes an asthma attack. Does anyone know of any that I could search for in my area?

I use Aqueous Cream BP as a moisturiser and Emulsifying Ointment BP as a soap substitute…both are entirely generic and contain no perfumes…both are extremely cheap…I don’t know what they’d be labelled as in countries other than the UK…you have to massage the Aqueous Cream in very thoroughly or ones skin feels "greasy" though here they are available from pretty much any pharmacy — eric www.ericjarvis.co.uk "live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

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2 gm b5 article/glucocorticoids

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The abstract you brought suggests that B5 is steroidogenic- possible, but here is my problem: No one so far replicated it even though it was published in ‘85 and no one ever tried B5 for asthma and allergy before and after that study.

PA for allergies and asthma has been recommended for decades, far and wide. It is very well known. Not even worth explaining to YOU. Asthma is considered to be much bigger problem than acne mainly because<snip  Therefore I have hard time to believe that so many just overlooked this little study.

Again, see above. THe problem with life-threatening asthma attacks is that B5 is not going to work, instant relief is vital. There is much information on environmental causes of asthma, but eliminating cockroach poop (one theory) isn’t going to help a kid who can’t breathe at the moment. However, if you can eliminate allergy related asthma, you may avoid those types of asthma attacks. At any rate, I’m not arguing that PA helps allergies, it’s been used for so long by so many that your opinion is lost in the sea of experienced users.   searches under all of the names for pantothenic acid, including pantothenate. 3) Trust me: when you use the keyword ?pantothenic’ you get all abstracts about pantothenic acid and its derivatives and even analogs.  Moreover panthotenate and pantothenic are used intermittently.  To narrow a search to be more specific is when one has to use modifiers;)

I don’t know what search engine you use, but nih/entrez/pubmed will have different results when using pantothenic acid, calcium d-pantothenate, and the other derivatives. So unless you use some incredibly secret and smart search engine, you’re wrong. Why would you need to narrow a search, when according you you there is only like 5 articles? One should do the search with each available name, using OR if that’s an option, otherwise one should do it separately with each name, as I prefer to do. But my goal is finding as much info as possible, not ruling out anything that I don’t agree with, such as seems to be your goal. article somewhere, but so long that you can’t provide the article why do you expect me to take it seriously?

Actually, I don’t post anything for deaf ears, so I don’t have any expectation of you except that you will continue to try to argue with anything I say just for the sake of doing so. BTW, I really don’t want to discuss it farther so don’t take it personally if I don’t respond- just have so much time and in my opinion the issue doesn’t merit more than I already said- after all it is an acne board. If I suffered from allergy I would have tried the 2 suggested grams of B5 much the same way that I did for acne- w/o consulting with a doctor.  With asthma though (your original post didn’t mentioned asthma) because of the dangers that I mentioned above, I would think that one should be more prudent.

ROFL, don’t take it personally if you don’t respond with some obnoxious reply? The allergy/asthma thing is not relevant to the acne board except for 1)another case of the maximum dosage recommended 2)the topic of glucocorticoids, which is very necessary and relevant to the discussion of acne and PA. I didn’t post the allergy thing for your comments, as if. It’s use is beyond discussion with you. Nice try to distract from the glucocorticoids, tho. Kita

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Kita again, I don’t think you should assume anything, btw. I’m sure you found this ‘85 article. Oh, and you should always do

1) The study that you posted is from

Stuffy nose

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Yes. It’s important to breath thru the nose to warm, humidify and filter the air going to your lungs. If your nose is stuffed up, you end up with unfiltered air going directly to lungs, which can worsen asthma. There are OTC drugs for allergies like hay fever–antihistamines [if you are allergic], decongestants, Nasalcrom nasal spray. If these don’t work you need prescription drugs.

If you are patient enough, your nose will open by itself. Just keep your mouth closed, even if you feel a need to breath. When possible, start breathing through your nose, but make yor breath gentle and shallow.

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My question seems so simple compared to what you are all writing about but I need a answer. I had bought a cheap humidifier, $20.00 to put in my bedroom. The DR. told me it` is the wrong kind and I have not had a chance to go out and get a good one because I am still home recuperating from the hospital. Here is my question.  I noticed yesterday that my nose seems "stuffy". This morning it is worse. Apparently, I snored all night.  I do not like to bother a doctor which such a stupid complaint like a stuffy nose. My doctor is off today anyway. Can this make my asthma worse? Peg

Yes. It’s important to breath thru the nose to warm, humidify and filter the air going to your lungs. If your nose is stuffed up, you end up with unfiltered air going directly to lungs, which can worsen asthma. There are OTC drugs for allergies like hay fever–antihistamines [if you are allergic], decongestants, Nasalcrom nasal spray. If these don’t work you need prescription drugs. The optimum humidity is 30-50% RH. Lower drys out the nose; high encourages dust mites and mould. Ultrasonic humidifiers should not be used as they disburse minerals from the water into the air. Ellis

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Depends on what your triggers are.  Post nasal drip causes my asthma to flare up.  In addition to everything else, I keep 12hour pseudophedrine tablets around. Liam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My question seems so simple compared to what you are all writing about but I need a answer. I had bought a cheap humidifier, $20.00 to put in my bedroom. The DR. told me it` is the wrong kind and I have not had a chance to go out and get a good one because I am still home recuperating from the hospital. Here is my question.  I noticed yesterday that my nose seems "stuffy". This morning it is worse. Apparently, I snored all night.  I do not like to bother a doctor which such a stupid complaint like a stuffy nose. My doctor is off today anyway. Can this make my asthma worse? Peg

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My question seems so simple compared to what you are all writing about but I need a answer. I had bought a cheap humidifier, $20.00 to put in my bedroom. The DR. told me it` is the wrong kind and I have not had a chance to go out and get a good one because I am still home recuperating from the hospital. Here is my question.  I noticed yesterday that my nose seems "stuffy". This morning it is worse. Apparently, I snored all night.  I do not like to bother a doctor which such a stupid complaint like a stuffy nose. My doctor is off today anyway. Can this make my asthma worse?

It depends what is causing the stuffy nose. What do you believe the cause of the stuffiness is? — Steven D. Litvintchouk                  

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My question seems so simple compared to what you are all writing about but I need a answer. I had bought a cheap humidifier, $20.00 to put in my bedroom. The DR. told me it` is the wrong kind and I have not had a chance to go out and get a good one because I am still home recuperating from the hospital. Here is my question.  I noticed yesterday that my nose seems "stuffy". This morning it is worse. Apparently, I snored all night.  I do not like to bother a doctor which such a stupid complaint like a stuffy nose. My doctor is off today anyway. Can this make my asthma worse? Peg

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What causes nighttime waking

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    Get yourself a proper de-humidifier and you won’t be bothered with dampness problems.  I listen to the rain pitty-patty on the roof but my nose tells me I’m in NewMexico.  Worth the bother and expense as is a hepa filter system.

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My asthma is not a horrid problem until the weather changed last week from nice to cold – then it kicked in ugly and I’ve had to use my inhalers daily – anyone else have that problem?

I totally agree, I’ve had real problems since it got really rainy and damp the last few days here, I think it might be molds but I’m not sure. -Amy

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Why is my asthma waking me at night? What is the usual solution? Albuterol, while effective, wakes me up. Thanks. regards, Kurt Krueckeberg

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Why is my asthma waking me at night? What is the usual solution? Albuterol, while effective, wakes me up. Thanks. regards, Kurt Krueckeberg Have you noticed any heartburn symptoms?   I have GERD or reflux this

causes my asthma to go crazy.  Pam

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Why is my asthma waking me at night? What is the usual solution? Albuterol, while effective, wakes me up.

Sounds like you need to go back to the doctors and re-evaluate the treatment plan. Thanks. regards, Kurt Krueckeberg

– Five Cats

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Mine does as well, only once normally even when I use my inhalers right before bedtime (around 10ish).  I use Combivent, Serevent and Flovent as needed only and sometimes I wake up around 3-4 and have to use the Combivent again so I can sleep – it doesn’t fry me like the albuterol does for some reason.  Don’t know why that happens either other than the medication wearing off through the evening.  I did start to eliminate things around me that could be the cause like my pillows and down comforter.  Maybe something is irritating you that is in the room or the house.  Also I don’t run my heater or ac at night to keep down the nighttime wake-up but still am having to treat it during difficult times. My asthma is not a horrid problem until the weather changed last week from nice to cold – then it kicked in ugly and I’ve had to use my inhalers daily – anyone else have that problem? Kathy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why is my asthma waking me at night? What is the usual solution? Albuterol, while effective, wakes me up. Thanks. regards, Kurt Krueckeberg

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can a bad flu or pneumonia cause asthma?

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I was very sick over the christmas holiday with possible pneumonia (the dr. treated without x-raying).  After I took the anti-biotics I started feeling better, but then i noticed some difficulty breathing when working out.  I went back to the dr who now thinks it’s asthma (or only asthma symptoms), but he wasn’t too clear whether it was temporary or permanent.  I have the inhaler and need to use it still when working out. I have not been able to find a web site that states the common causes for asthma.  Are they related to an illness/side effect?  Or is it genetic? Thank you.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was very sick over the christmas holiday with possible pneumonia (the dr. treated without x-raying).  After I took the anti-biotics I started feeling better, but then i noticed some difficulty breathing when working out.  I went back to the dr who now thinks it’s asthma (or only asthma symptoms), but he wasn’t too clear whether it was temporary or permanent.  I have the inhaler and need to use it still when working out. I have not been able to find a web site that states the common causes for asthma.  Are they related to an illness/side effect?  Or is it genetic? Thank you. VICTOR,

I HAD A BAD CASE OF BRONCHITIS THREE YEARS AGO, WHICH TRIGGERED ASTHMA.  YOU MAY NEED TO CONTINUE USING YOUR INHALER ESPECIALLY WHEN EXERCISING. YOU MAY NOTICE YOUR SYMTOMS WANING WITH TIME, BUT IF NOT, YOU NEED TO BE EVALUATED BY AN MD AND POSSIBLY GIVEN OTHER MEDICATIONS IN ADDITION TO AN INHALER.  ONE FUNNY THING THAT I HAVE NOTICED IS THAT WHEN I TAKE NSAIDS (IBUPROFEN) I NEED NO ASTHMA MEDICATION.  I GUESS IT HELPS STOP THE INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE THAT TRIGGERS ASTHMA.  ANY TYPE OF ALLERGY OR URI TENDS TO TRIGGER MY ASTHMA.  DON’T LET IT GO UNTREATED AS IT CAN CAUSE PERMANENT LUNG DAMAGE THAT CAN BE PREVENTED BY MEDICATION. MONICA Before you buy.

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I may be wrong about this but it seems intuitively sensible to me to jump on that wheezing and cough with low dose topical steroid and see if you can get that inflammation under control as fast a possible. I developed asthma through this route and often wonder how long I could have put off  having asthma if I had aggressively treated that first bronchitis with some steroids instead of just waiting to see what would happen. Linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was very sick over the christmas holiday with possible pneumonia (the dr. treated without x-raying).  After I took the anti-biotics I started feeling better, but then i noticed some difficulty breathing when working out.  I went back to the dr who now thinks it’s asthma (or only asthma symptoms), but he wasn’t too clear whether it was temporary or permanent.  I have the inhaler and need to use it still when working out. I have not been able to find a web site that states the common causes for asthma.  Are they related to an illness/side effect?  Or is it genetic? Thank you.

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I agree.  My adult-onset asthma followed a nasty, protracted viral infection that progressed into pneumonia (3-wk hospitalization).  My GP had taken a leisurely approach to treatment (to be charitable) and I went three months with severe coughing before ending up in the hospital.  I was diagnosed at Mayo where they told me that I had broken two ribs from the coughing.  In my opinion (shared by my pulmonologist), if initial treatment had been more proactive, I might not have had the severity of airway damage, if at all. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I may be wrong about this but it seems intuitively sensible to me to jump on that wheezing and cough with low dose topical steroid and see if you can get that inflammation under control as fast a possible. I developed asthma through this route and often wonder how long I could have put off  having asthma if I had aggressively treated that first bronchitis with some steroids instead of just waiting to see what would happen. Linda I was very sick over the christmas holiday with possible pneumonia (the dr. treated without x-raying).  After I took the anti-biotics I started feeling better, but then i noticed some difficulty breathing when working out.  I went back to the dr who now thinks it’s asthma (or only asthma symptoms), but he wasn’t too clear whether it was temporary or permanent.  I have the inhaler and need to use it still when working out. I have not been able to find a web site that states the common causes for asthma.  Are they related to an illness/side effect?  Or is it genetic? Thank you.

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No, asthma is caused by hyperventilation (just kidding).

surely asthma is caused by posting to alt.support.asthma…nearly everyone who posts has now got asthma…something should be done! (just kidding too) eric "the alternative to seeing things in black and white is to see them in full colour"

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everyday life and asthma

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It is probably the nurse who is wearing perfume, if she doesn’t have asthma.

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That might be thought of as black balling businesses and improper but could possibly host a sight where other could contribute the information of having been to a certain place and having first hand experienced a problem with the business to which they write about. This would be clever i think. cloud – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My worst porblem is the commercial air fresherner that business, hospitals and clincs use. I am seriously considering starting a national regristry of stinky places post every business that has reported air quality problems on the net. Then send a letter to the president/owner that due to their air quality they have been put on the list. — Gordon W5RED "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."   – Wayne Gretzky I could have easily have written this posting myself! Sigh. Rant follows … At school today I got a bad, bad asthmatic reaction to some cologne a guy I was working with was wearing. He said he wouldn’t wear it next time. Nice but, I got into a mood because what the hell am I supposed to do? Go around telling people they can’t wear cologne or perfume just so I don’t get sick? God, if it’s not second hand smoke it’s something else. The only way I can be even remotely healthy is stay in my own house and never go out. What kind of life is that? It isn’t a very good one. It isn’t one I want to live. I also missed my app for the allergy shot because I thought it was for Wednesday. I couldn’t have got it anyway because I was having such a hard time breathing. Come to think of it, I’ve been having a much harder time breathing the past couple of days. The regular meds aren’t doing so well. I took theophyline today before going to school and also used the nebulizer, but it just didn’t hold up under the shs and the cologne. I couldn’t pay attention in the classes because all I could think about was breathing. Used the rescue inhaler, which made it somewhat better but not enough, IMO. I *still* feel short of breath. So now what? If I can’t get the allergy shot when I’m having a hard time breathing and going out and getting hit with triggers is causing this, then I’ll never be able to get the shots and there’s no hope for me to get any better. .

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My worst porblem is the commercial air fresherner that business, hospitals and clincs use. I am seriously considering starting a national regristry of stinky places post every business that has reported air quality problems on the net. Then send a letter to the president/owner that due to their air quality they have been put on the list. — Gordon W5RED "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."   – Wayne Gretzky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I could have easily have written this posting myself! Sigh. Rant follows … At school today I got a bad, bad asthmatic reaction to some cologne a guy I was working with was wearing. He said he wouldn’t wear it next time. Nice but, I got into a mood because what the hell am I supposed to do? Go around telling people they can’t wear cologne or perfume just so I don’t get sick? God, if it’s not second hand smoke it’s something else. The only way I can be even remotely healthy is stay in my own house and never go out. What kind of life is that? It isn’t a very good one. It isn’t one I want to live. I also missed my app for the allergy shot because I thought it was for Wednesday. I couldn’t have got it anyway because I was having such a hard time breathing. Come to think of it, I’ve been having a much harder time breathing the past couple of days. The regular meds aren’t doing so well. I took theophyline today before going to school and also used the nebulizer, but it just didn’t hold up under the shs and the cologne. I couldn’t pay attention in the classes because all I could think about was breathing. Used the rescue inhaler, which made it somewhat better but not enough, IMO. I *still* feel short of breath. So now what? If I can’t get the allergy shot when I’m having a hard time breathing and going out and getting hit with triggers is causing this, then I’ll never be able to get the shots and there’s no hope for me to get any better. .

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Oh my gosh!  I’ve noticed the same darn thing — perfume in the waiting room of my asthma doctor! I think I just might try your trick of asking the nurse about it in a very loud voice…..  :-) Catherine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have the same problem with perfumes, my last defense is stand at the corner of the room. Less perfume there. I’ll go you one better on there wearers. I see an allergist and a pulminarist and most of the time I’m standing outside of the office because of the other patients perfumes inside. What can you do besides not see the doc ? My personal fav is "what idiot wears perfume to an asthma doctors office" spoken loudly to the nurse. Doesnt help but it makes me feel better.

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I could have easily have written this posting myself! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sigh. Rant follows … At school today I got a bad, bad asthmatic reaction to some cologne a guy I was working with was wearing. He said he wouldn’t wear it next time. Nice but, I got into a mood because what the hell am I supposed to do? Go around telling people they can’t wear cologne or perfume just so I don’t get sick? God, if it’s not second hand smoke it’s something else. The only way I can be even remotely healthy is stay in my own house and never go out. What kind of life is that? It isn’t a very good one. It isn’t one I want to live. I also missed my app for the allergy shot because I thought it was for Wednesday. I couldn’t have got it anyway because I was having such a hard time breathing. Come to think of it, I’ve been having a much harder time breathing the past couple of days. The regular meds aren’t doing so well. I took theophyline today before going to school and also used the nebulizer, but it just didn’t hold up under the shs and the cologne. I couldn’t pay attention in the classes because all I could think about was breathing. Used the rescue inhaler, which made it somewhat better but not enough, IMO. I *still* feel short of breath. So now what? If I can’t get the allergy shot when I’m having a hard time breathing and going out and getting hit with triggers is causing this, then I’ll never be able to get the shots and there’s no hope for me to get any better. .

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I have the same problem with perfumes, my last defense is stand at the corner of the room. Less perfume there. I’ll go you one better on there wearers. I see an allergist and a pulminarist and most of the time I’m standing outside of the office because of the other patients perfumes inside. What can you do besides not see the doc ? My personal fav is "what idiot wears perfume to an asthma doctors office" spoken loudly to the nurse. Doesnt help but it makes me feel better.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know how you feel!  This world would be a MUCH better place if people did not feel that they must *marinate* themselves in their cologne. It’s maddening to have one’s asthma triggered by something as commonplace (in our society) as cologne or perfume.  I used to be embarrassed about my reaction to perfume and I used to feel that I was imposing on people if I asked them not to wear it or made a  fuss about being around it.  But I’ve come to realize that my being able to breathe is more important than their "right" to pollute the air, and that their perfume is really imposing on me. So I have become pretty shameless about asking people not to wear perfume, or of changing my seat when I encounter it. I’m nice about it, but I stand my ground. Another trick is, if possible, to sit near a window or ventilation duct — being "upwind" can make all the difference between being able to stay in the room and having to get out.  I pre-treat myself with albuterol before going into a meeting, but it sounds as though your current asthma condition is way beyond that and that a change of meds might be in order. Some things to think about: 1) What kind of doctor are you seeing — a pulmonary specialist or an allergist?  You might benefit by changing doctors.  2) Are you on Singulair or Accolate?  Are you using any long-acting inhalers such as Serevent? What about inhaled steroids?   3) And with your being short of breath the last couple of days, it sounds like you should call a doctor and see what he/she has to say right now.  In addition to a meds change, you might need a short course of prednisone to break a bad cycle. Hang in there. Take care, Catherine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sigh. Rant follows … At school today I got a bad, bad asthmatic reaction to some cologne a guy I was working with was wearing. He said he wouldn’t wear it next time. Nice but, I got into a mood because what the hell am I supposed to do? Go around telling people they can’t wear cologne or perfume just so I don’t get sick? God, if it’s not second hand smoke it’s something else. The only way I can be even remotely healthy is stay in my own house and never go out. What kind of life is that? It isn’t a very good one. It isn’t one I want to live. I also missed my app for the allergy shot because I thought it was for Wednesday. I couldn’t have got it anyway because I was having such a hard time breathing. Come to think of it, I’ve been having a much harder time breathing the past couple of days. The regular meds aren’t doing so well. I took theophyline today before going to school and also used the nebulizer, but it just didn’t hold up under the shs and the cologne. I couldn’t pay attention in the classes because all I could think about was breathing. Used the rescue inhaler, which made it somewhat better but not enough, IMO. I *still* feel short of breath. So now what? If I can’t get the allergy shot when I’m having a hard time breathing and going out and getting hit with triggers is causing this, then I’ll never be able to get the shots and there’s no hope for me to get any better. .

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I have learned to speak up about perfume. It causes an asthma attack.  I am not rude, about it, but I am up front about what perfume can do. Many people have no idea, that pefume can cause an attack.  I am finding more, and more people who have problems with perfumes, and although they may not speak up will thank me for saying something about the scents in a room..etc..My faimly and I even went so far as to ask the no one wear perfume , etc.. to the calling hours for my grandmother…Speaking up for your self is not easy to do all the time, but I find that it is better than having repeted asthma attacks…

Sigh. Rant follows … At school today I got a bad, bad asthmatic reaction to some cologne a guy I was working with was wearing. He said he wouldn’t wear it next time. Nice but, I got into a mood because what the hell am I supposed to do? Go around telling people they can’t wear cologne or perfume just so I don’t get sick? God, if it’s not second hand smoke it’s something else. The only way I can be even remotely healthy is stay in my own house and never go out. What kind of life is that? It isn’t a very good one. It isn’t one I want to live. I also missed my app for the allergy shot because I thought it was for Wednesday. I couldn’t have got it anyway because I was having such a hard time breathing. Come to think of it, I’ve been having a much harder time breathing the past couple of days. The regular meds aren’t doing so well. I took theophyline today before going to school and also used the nebulizer, but it just didn’t hold up under the shs and the cologne. I couldn’t pay attention in the classes because all I could think about was breathing. Used the rescue inhaler, which made it somewhat better but not enough, IMO. I *still* feel short of breath. So now what? If I can’t get the allergy shot when I’m having a hard time breathing and going out and getting hit with triggers is causing this, then I’ll never be able to get the shots and there’s no hope for me to get any better.

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I know how you feel!  This world would be a MUCH better place if people did not feel that they must *marinate* themselves in their cologne. It’s maddening to have one’s asthma triggered by something as commonplace (in our society) as cologne or perfume.  I used to be embarrassed about my reaction to perfume and I used to feel that I was imposing on people if I asked them not to wear it or made a  fuss about being around it.  But I’ve come to realize that my being able to breathe is more important than their "right" to pollute the air, and that their perfume is really imposing on me. So I have become pretty shameless about asking people not to wear perfume, or of changing my seat when I encounter it. I’m nice about it, but I stand my ground. Another trick is, if possible, to sit near a window or ventilation duct — being "upwind" can make all the difference between being able to stay in the room and having to get out.  I pre-treat myself with albuterol before going into a meeting, but it sounds as though your current asthma condition is way beyond that and that a change of meds might be in order. Some things to think about: 1) What kind of doctor are you seeing — a pulmonary specialist or an allergist?  You might benefit by changing doctors.  2) Are you on Singulair or Accolate?  Are you using any long-acting inhalers such as Serevent?  What about inhaled steroids?   3) And with your being short of breath the last couple of days, it sounds like you should call a doctor and see what he/she has to say right now.  In addition to a meds change, you might need a short course of prednisone to break a bad cycle. Hang in there. Take care, Catherine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sigh. Rant follows … At school today I got a bad, bad asthmatic reaction to some cologne a guy I was working with was wearing. He said he wouldn’t wear it next time. Nice but, I got into a mood because what the hell am I supposed to do? Go around telling people they can’t wear cologne or perfume just so I don’t get sick? God, if it’s not second hand smoke it’s something else. The only way I can be even remotely healthy is stay in my own house and never go out. What kind of life is that? It isn’t a very good one. It isn’t one I want to live. I also missed my app for the allergy shot because I thought it was for Wednesday. I couldn’t have got it anyway because I was having such a hard time breathing. Come to think of it, I’ve been having a much harder time breathing the past couple of days. The regular meds aren’t doing so well. I took theophyline today before going to school and also used the nebulizer, but it just didn’t hold up under the shs and the cologne. I couldn’t pay attention in the classes because all I could think about was breathing. Used the rescue inhaler, which made it somewhat better but not enough, IMO. I *still* feel short of breath. So now what? If I can’t get the allergy shot when I’m having a hard time breathing and going out and getting hit with triggers is causing this, then I’ll never be able to get the shots and there’s no hope for me to get any better. .

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Sigh. Rant follows … At school today I got a bad, bad asthmatic reaction to some cologne a guy I was working with was wearing. He said he wouldn’t wear it next time. Nice but, I got into a mood because what the hell am I supposed to do? Go around telling people they can’t wear cologne or perfume just so I don’t get sick? God, if it’s not second hand smoke it’s something else. The only way I can be even remotely healthy is stay in my own house and never go out. What kind of life is that? It isn’t a very good one. It isn’t one I want to live. I also missed my app for the allergy shot because I thought it was for Wednesday. I couldn’t have got it anyway because I was having such a hard time breathing. Come to think of it, I’ve been having a much harder time breathing the past couple of days. The regular meds aren’t doing so well. I took theophyline today before going to school and also used the nebulizer, but it just didn’t hold up under the shs and the cologne. I couldn’t pay attention in the classes because all I could think about was breathing. Used the rescue inhaler, which made it somewhat better but not enough, IMO. I *still* feel short of breath. So now what? If I can’t get the allergy shot when I’m having a hard time breathing and going out and getting hit with triggers is causing this, then I’ll never be able to get the shots and there’s no hope for me to get any better. .

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Causes of asthma genetic/environmental or early birth?

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the first reports I ever read or saw about this were in the Guardian newspaper and on the BBC…I consoider the Guardian to be fairly reliable in it’s science coverage, even more so with the BBC where I know two of the science correspomdents personally

You are much more confidant in the popular media than I am.  I prefer to stick to source scientific references. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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I wonder if anyone else has the side effect of eating from sacs instead of a dish;i.e. if my husband opens peanuts or popcorn or patato chips fritos from the bag I get an attact but if he puts its contents in a dish I usually can enjoy along with him, he use to think I was making it up but now he knows it happens,  any one elser find that to be a problem.,  I think its a small chemical reaction of sorts.   frannymae http://community.webtv.net/frannymae/FRANSHOME

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got a few here Colin…as I said there are none directly related to asthma…but enough to cause me some concern about the amount of time what I eat spends encased in plastics http://www.chem-tox.com/infertility/infertility.htm

Somebody trying to sell a book.  Odd how is name does not appear in a medline search. BTW, why are all of your references from the popular media?  I would be much more impressed by actual citation references than opinions from reporters. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about

Question – how did you determine if these reports are reliable?   No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about Question – how did you determine if these reports are reliable? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

the first reports I ever read or saw about this were in the Guardian newspaper and on the BBC…I consoider the Guardian to be fairly reliable in it’s science coverage, even more so with the BBC where I know two of the science correspomdents personally whilst I’m not 100% convinced that I can take everything in USA Today as gospel I think New Scientist is fairly reliable though the fact that I know three former news editors of the publication may bias me slightly…it would be nice to be able to say that MSNBC are habitually inaccurate but I suspect that they are accurate enough in most of their reporting that anyone saying any such thing would be slaughtered in a slander case I chose those out of a large number of possibilities because they showed a range of what was on the web from a basic Infoseek search…I don’t have a lot of time to go digging into this so that’s going to have to do eric

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I wonder if anyone else has the side effect of eating from sacs instead of a dish;i.e. if my husband opens peanuts or popcorn or patato chips fritos from the bag I get an attact but if he puts its contents in a dish I usually can enjoy along with him, he use to think I was making it up but now he knows it happens,  any one elser find that to be a problem.,  I think its a small chemical reaction of sorts.   frannymae http://community.webtv.net/frannymae/FRANSHOME

it may also relate to how much "dust" is there from tiny fragments of the food…that would mostly get knocked off as they are poured into the dish just a thought eric

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message. got a few here Colin…as I said there are none directly related to asthma…but enough to cause me some concern about the amount of time what I eat spends encased in plastics http://www.chem-tox.com/infertility/infertility.htm http://www.endo-society.org/news_g/press/estrogen.htm http://www.usatoday.com/life/health/general/chemical/lhgch001.htm http://www.consumersunion.org/food/plasticny698.htm http://www.newscientist.com/nsplus/insight/fertility/dental.html http://www.msnbc.com/news/283162.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/215994.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/280170.asp that’s the results of about twenty minutes of looking for relevant reports the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about eric

 I agree.  That’s why I try to avoid them a bit.  Especially in something I’m ingesting in one way or another….. Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? Your editing left MY name on this but none of it was written by me.

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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples?

Your editing left MY name on this but none of it was written by me. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

Colin…I haven’t time to do a search at the moment, but I’ll try to find time tomorrow…mostly I’m going from reports on the BBC and in the Guardian newspaper and both may well be archived online…the gist was that some chemicals regularly used in plastic wrapping were a greater cancer risk that originally thought, and that some plastics have decay products that are implicated in loss of fertility in animals…as I said, I haven’t seen anything regarding asthma, but generally research into the degradation of plastics didn’t really get going until the last fifteen years so I would expect a number of new reports over the next few years and for everyone…we aren’t talking a panic "I must never touch plastics again" sort of health risk here…it’s my understanding that it’s a very small increase in the risk of developing problems…however plastics are becoming so indispensable that it seems sensible to combine the needs of the environment to not get filled by very slowly degrading waste, and my own health…hence when I get the choice I buy things that aren’t wrapped in plastics eric

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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible Can you give some examples? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

got a few here Colin…as I said there are none directly related to asthma…but enough to cause me some concern about the amount of time what I eat spends encased in plastics http://www.chem-tox.com/infertility/infertility.htm http://www.endo-society.org/news_g/press/estrogen.htm http://www.usatoday.com/life/health/general/chemical/lhgch001.htm http://www.consumersunion.org/food/plasticny698.htm http://www.newscientist.com/nsplus/insight/fertility/dental.html http://www.msnbc.com/news/283162.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/215994.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/280170.asp that’s the results of about twenty minutes of looking for relevant reports the conclusion I draw from what I’ve read and heard is that the assumption that plastics are by and large inert and safe is questionable to say the least, and definately not true of some commonly used ones like PVC…it’s not cause for panic, but it’s something that we should be concerned about eric

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There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma.  Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting.  And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils.

I’d wait and see if this research actually produces results.  A lot of things have changed in the past 30 years – are you going to avoid them also? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma.  Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting.  And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. I’d wait and see if this research actually produces results.  A lot of things have changed in the past 30 years – are you going to avoid them also?

Food tastes better out of china or pottery.  Ditto on drinks.  Try it for a while and you’ll notice a plastic taste when you switch back.   If I can taste it, then why increase exposure to a possible problem? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are they if neither parent has asthma???  We went through this once before, I have no idea.  Asthma has been known to skip generations. There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma.  Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting.  And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message. Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible

That’s why I said the researcher is checking out the "POSSIBLE ROLE". eric

Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God

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What are they if neither parent has asthma???  We went through this once before,

I have no idea.  Asthma has been known to skip generations. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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What are they if neither parent has asthma???  We went through this once before, I have no idea.  Asthma has been known to skip generations.

There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma.  Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting.  And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are they if neither parent has asthma???  We went through this once before, I have no idea.  Asthma has been known to skip generations. There is some indication that both genetics and environment play a role. Oddly enough, there’s at least one scientist who is researching the possible role of plastics in development of asthma.  Since plastics in food preparation and storage has become so prevalent in the last twenty-thirty years, since some plastics definitely do out-gas, the research is focused on the out-gassing. Interesting.  And enough to make me cut down on drinking and eating with plastic cups, plates and utensils. No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message. Sue Official Secretary of OSGSL Dogs think they’re human Cats think they’re God

the difficult thing is finding food that isn’t packaged in plastic…I hadn’t seen anything about plastics being implicated directly in the development of asthma, but they are implicated in so many other health problems that it’s not at all surprising and I was already trying to avoid them where possible eric

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What are they if neither parent has asthma???  We went through this once before,

                  "The strength of association between childhood asthma and parental asthma was                   independent of the sex of either the parent or the child, and of atopic conditions in the child. In                   the 133 children for whom both parents were asthmatic, 65 (49%) had a history of asthma."                   Paediatr Perinat Epidemiol 1993 Jan;7(1):67-76                   The associations between childhood asthma and atopy, and parental asthma, hay fever and                   smoking.                   Jenkins MA, Hopper JL, Flander LB, Carlin JB, Giles GG                  Actually, it is much more complicated than this.  At the latest there were five specific genes                   associated with atopic disease.  In addition it has been found that a mother is more likely to                   pass on the                   predisposition to atopy than a father. Just because approximately one-half of the kids in the above study were asthmatic when both parents were doesn’t mean one has a 50% probability of developing asthma if both parents were asthmatic, or a 25% probability if one parent was asthmatic.  Or do you have a new reference or data?

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Hi All, Just wondered…. My son was born at 33 weeks gestation (they feel excessive stress from my father being in intensive care at the time helped cause him to be born early). I was just wondering…if anyone knew what the statistics are on asthma being inherited versus environmental? Also have you ever heard of premie’s being more likely to have asthma…then other babies(as the lungs are the last to develop)? Or do you think that  my son’s severe asthma is concidental with his being born early and that asthma is mostly inherited? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Vicky

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Hi All, Just wondered…. My son was born at 33 weeks gestation (they feel excessive stress from my father being in intensive care at the time helped cause him to be born early). I was just wondering…if anyone knew what the statistics are on asthma being inherited versus environmental?

Asthma has been known to be an inherited disease for a while.  But your environment plays a big role (just how big is still being debated) in the presentation of the disease. The odds on inheriting asthma are: (approximately) 25% if one parent has asthma 50% if both parents have asthma Also have you ever heard of premie’s being more likely to have asthma…then other babies(as the lungs are the last to develop)? Or do you think that  my son’s severe asthma is concidental with his being born early and that asthma is mostly inherited?

A little of both perhaps? No electrons were harmed in the posting of this message.

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What asthma medicines are you taking.

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I am seeing a new doctor for my asthma and was wondering what medications are most helpful in controlling your asthma?

The ones that work; what works for me may not work for you. Chris Owens

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I am seeing a new doctor for my asthma and was wondering what medications are most helpful in controlling your asthma?

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I am seeing a new doctor for my asthma and was wondering what medications are most helpful in controlling your asthma?

Rescue inhaler: Ventolin (albuterol) Long acting prevention inhaler: Pulmicort, Flovent, Vanceril DS [Intal can be tried for mild cases] Antileukotriene pill: Singulair (but only helps 2/3 of patients) Some patients find theophylline SR helpful as an additive drug in low doses, but this is controversial.

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I am seeing a new doctor for my asthma and was wondering what medications are most helpful in controlling your asthma? Rescue inhaler: Ventolin (albuterol) Long acting prevention inhaler: Pulmicort, Flovent, Vanceril DS [Intal can be tried for mild cases] Antileukotriene pill: Singulair (but only helps 2/3 of patients) Some patients find theophylline SR helpful as an additive drug in low doses, but this is controversial.

 I have rescue inhaler (2 puffs x 4 a day) FloVent (as far as I’m concerned, the miracle drug that got me off oral steroids) and I have been on theophylline for seven or eight years now.  I am relatively under control but have to be viligant as far as infections are concerned. Sue "It was said she held a grudge until it died of old age and then had it stuffed and mounted."                              David Weber (ten points to anyone who remembers the title of the book)

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I am seeing a new doctor for my asthma and was wondering what medications are most helpful in controlling your asthma?

Personally I’ve found that a combination of Singulair, Flovent 220, Entex, Zyrtec, Serevent, and Nasacort has helped my asthma.  I do also have a nebulizer and Albuterol (rescue inhaler).   It really depends on what causes your asthma as to your treatment plan.  I think that most people on this list take an inhaled steroid, rescue inhaler, and possibly something like Singulair.  I would suggest talking to your doctor about what your causes are, and then the appropriate treatment.  What works for me, might make your asthma worse. Best of Luck to you- Ashleigh http://www.angelfire.com/tn/Ashleigh1976/index.html Try smiling, it won’t kill you and might even brighten your day.

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Asthma experts needed!!

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Hello everyone…I am doing a research paper on the causes of asthma in the Bronx and I have been trying to get in touch with Pulmonary Doctors at Montefiore Medical Center at the Bronx, but I haven’t been able to.  If there are any doctors out there that would be interested in helping me, PLEASE reply to my message…Thank you.

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Hiya – Try contacting the Pulmonary Function Lab at Montefiore.  There are a bunch of dr’s and interns that work out of there. Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )

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Theophylline: What can I expect?

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I took theophylline for about 10 years, before Singulair.  It made me jumpy, shaky and made it hard to sleep if I took it late in the eve.  I also had to have higher and higher levels for it to help.  Therefore I would be toxic and have all the symptoms that went with that,  nausea, vomiting, insomnia and a very awful head ache.  I hope you do better then I did.  BTW have you tried Singulair?  Pam

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Theophylline is made from a component found in tea. You’ll probably have to take blood tests every month to ensure that you have an adequate level It’s a bit old fashioned, There’s better drugs such as Accolate

Theophylline works for me where Accolate didn’t!  I was hoping Accolate would do something but no such luck. CarolR.

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I was told not to drink caffeine while taking theophylline. Or at least not close together Tami

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My doctor just added Theophylline to my medications. It won’t make me jumpy like caffeine will it? Has anybody here used it?

For many years.  Yes, it can have some stimulant effects; but they aren’t as severe as caffiene, as a general rule.  Drinking caffienated beverages AND taking theo is not a good idea, though. Chris Owens

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I use it, 100-200 mg, twice a day. In addition to inhalers. The side effect I sometimes get is a headache. It should be taken with food. No blood level tests are needed at low dose.

I have taken Theophylline for over 15 years and have always been told to take it on an empty stomach as it is more effective.  The information I receive with it and also from research I have read the same thing. Yes, it does cause me to be jittery, but that can also be caused from the Volmax and Flovent that I am also on, they are all contributing factors.  I have found that the longer I am on Theophylline the less jittery I get, plus have learned to space the other drugs out from the time that I take it also. You may experience problems at first, but they lessen as time goes on. With Theophylline in particular you should also watch your BBQ’d foods, the charring of the foods that you ingest affects the efficacy of the Theophylline, as well as a high protein diet versus a high carbo diet. Chrystal

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My doctor just added Theophylline to my medications. It won’t make me jumpy like caffeine will it?

Since caffeine and theophyline are related chemicals, I would expect that if one makes you jumpy, the other will also. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein

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My doctor just added Theophylline to my medications. It won’t make me jumpy like caffeine will it? Has anybody here used it?

Theophylline is chemically similar to caffeine and has same side effects. However it is administered in sustained-release over 12 hours, rather than a sudden burst like a cup of coffee. There are studies that support using low dose theophylline as an additive drug can reduce the need for inhaled steroids by a factor of 2. I use it, 100-200 mg, twice a day. In addition to inhalers. The side effect I sometimes get is a headache. It should be taken with food. No blood level tests are needed at low dose. Ellis

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Theophylline is made from a component found in tea. You’ll probably have to take blood tests every month to ensure that you have an adequate level It’s a bit old fashioned, There’s better drugs such as Accolate Good luck! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My doctor just added Theophylline to my medications. It won’t make me jumpy like caffeine will it? Has anybody here used it?

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My doctor just added Theophylline to my medications. It won’t make me jumpy like caffeine will it? Has anybody here used it?

I have been taking theophylline for 10 years and it has never made me "jumpy". The only problem I have occasionally is nausea, but this is very rare for me. Renae

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I’ve taken it for 15+ years.  I didn’t sleep much the first week or so. I’ve always been jumpy.  When I forgot and took 2 tablets, there was considerable cramping. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My doctor just added Theophylline to my medications. It won’t make me jumpy like caffeine will it? Has anybody here used it?

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My own experience with theophylline has been excellent.  I take a high dose, TheoDur 300 mg TID and have taken it for about 6 years. I really have no side effects from it and if I miss a dose (especially hs) I can be almost certain to have an asthma attack during the night. I also take other meds such as Pronebtil, Serevent and Asthmacorte all of which have nasty side effects  — at least at times. Hope it is as helpful to you as it has been to me. rec.crafts.textiles.needlework alt.support.asthma

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It is worse than coffee but what milligram are you on most common is about 250 or so.  I was up to 800 and a nervous wreck  with terrible mood swings and muscle cramps. GET OFF IT unless nothing else works!!!!! Is your Doctor up to date with ASthma and new meds?

Theophylline is making a comeback. Although High Dose theophylline is seldom used anymore, Low Dose Theophylline, say 100-400 mg/day, is making a comeback. Recent studies have shown it can cut the need for inhaled steroid by a factor of 2. Like most drugs, side effects are dose dependent. Theophylline sustained-release, should be started low and gradually built up. Some versions, like TheoDur, are scored so the dose can be cut in half. Consumption of coffee and tea should be reduced when starting theophylline, they are chemically similar and have similar side effects. I went to Chana Town in New York and saw a Chinese Dr.   He told me that my problem wasn’t that I had Asthma but what caused it.  He found weakness in my lungs and Sinus. I took a series of medicinal teas for about a 2 to 3 month peiod and after I could cut the lawn run, be where others smoked etc and not have a severe attack.  In fact he taught me Kung Fu but most of all Chinese Breathing techniques from Qi Qong pronounced Chi Kung. Mitch

You probably ended up with MaHuang (ephedra), a well know Chinese herb used to treat asthma for thousands of years. Trouble is it’s a nonselective bronchodilator; not only does it act to dilate the lungs but it speeds up the heart, raises blood pressure, etc. The modern equivalent is a beta2 selective bronchodilator; like albuterol/salbutamol, which primarily acts on the lungs. The teas may also have had theophylline in them; it’s a common component of tea. Trouble is you don’t know exactly what dose you are getting as strength varies from batch to batch. However most asthma requires the inflammation be treated; this usually requires inhaled steroids; to prevent permanent lung damage from ‘remodeling’. Ellis

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Ah yes … the only westerners have answers to anything response. Science answer all questions in the universe. Please disregard that science has always "known" the answers and that what they "know" now contradicts what they "knew" yesterday and what they will "know" tomorrow. What they "know" are best guesses and real scentists acknowledge that.

Ah, yes … another person who fails to understand that the fact that science works by successive approximations, and that scientists indeed do take new data into account and revise their conclusions accordingly, is not a weakness but the strength of the system. The average snake oil salesman, you’ll notice, doesn’t even seriously consider already existing data that’s put right in front of him by, say, members of this group. Properly conducted cience gathers what data it can, analyzes it as objectively it can, and comes to conclusions based on this.  Sometimes new data later results in the revision of conclusions–but the makers of snake oil products generally don’t look at objective data at all, either before or after marketing their products.  They just point to a few people who say, "Hey, it worked for me!" and count that as success.

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I took a series of medicinal teas for about a 2 to 3 month peiod and after I could cut the lawn run, be where others smoked etc and not have a severe attack.  In fact he taught me Kung Fu but most of all Chinese Breathing techniques from Qi Qong pronounced Chi Kung.

Ah yes. The famous ‘Chinese’ Medicine.  Otherwise known as ‘lets load them up with excessive amounts of unsafe drugs.’ Have you checked to see what drugs are in those teas you are drinking? It is sad to see how these quacks can get away with claiming to "know" the causes of asthma but get away with treating it with drugs that only treat symptoms. Didn’t you get the clue that this guy had no idea what he was talking about when he diagnosed you as having "weak lungs?" "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein

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Ah yes. The famous ‘Chinese’ Medicine.  Otherwise known as ‘lets load them up with excessive amounts of unsafe drugs.’

Ah yes … the only westerners have answers to anything response. Science answer all questions in the universe. Please disregard that science has always "known" the answers and that what they "know" now contradicts what they "knew" yesterday and what they will "know" tomorrow. What they "know" are best guesses and real scentists acknowledge that. Jimmy

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It is worse than coffee but what milligram are you on most common is about 250 or so.  I was up to 800 and a nervous wreck  with terrible mood swings and muscle cramps. GET OFF IT unless nothing else works!!!!! Is your Doctor up to date with ASthma and new meds? I went to Chana Town in New York and saw a Chinese Dr.   He told me that my problem wasn’t that I had Asthma but what caused it.  He found weakness in my lungs and Sinus. I took a series of medicinal teas for about a 2 to 3 month peiod and after I could cut the lawn run, be where others smoked etc and not have a severe attack.  In fact he taught me Kung Fu but most of all Chinese Breathing techniques from Qi Qong pronounced Chi Kung. Hope I helped answer your Question. Mitch

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