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pssst!!! Hey, Dragon. BK = Je. 22:19 That wasn’t very nice kitten… still if he was buried it would keep him from trolling. 
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— Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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Poor baby, didn’t they have your brand of coffee available? I doubt that what we are talking about could be construed as brainwashing, I am under a bit of stress, I asked advice, my brother, Todd, proffered it, I accept it, case closed. Where is your advice? Criticism I always have in a plentiful supply. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on. Oh, please: enough with the Mormon mumbo-jumbo. Move on, if you would — you will not find any people to brainwash here.
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sorry to jump in at this point but out of curiosity, is this the same blue paperback copie that was given to me at one point in time. It’s an interesting read but, from my perspective anyway, would benefit from a bit more commentary than what I found in that version.
That would be the one, and your right there is very little commentary included, though there are many people who would be willing to answer any questions about it. — – Todd Rogers "I’ve been asked what I mean by word of honor. I will tell you. Place me behind prison walls – walls of stone ever so high, ever so thick, reaching ever so far into the ground – there is a possibility that in some way or another I may escape; but stand me on the floor and draw a chalk line around me and have me give my word of honor never to cross it. Can I get out of the circle? No. Never! I’d die first!" -Karl G. Maeser Founder of Brigham Young University
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It’s always a good thing to read the literature of other faiths on occasion. It helps to bring about better understanding between faiths.
Here, here. — – Todd Rogers "I’ve been asked what I mean by word of honor. I will tell you. Place me behind prison walls – walls of stone ever so high, ever so thick, reaching ever so far into the ground – there is a possibility that in some way or another I may escape; but stand me on the floor and draw a chalk line around me and have me give my word of honor never to cross it. Can I get out of the circle? No. Never! I’d die first!" -Karl G. Maeser Founder of Brigham Young University
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pssst!!! Hey, Dragon. BK = Je. 22:19
That wasn’t very nice kitten… still if he was buried it would keep him from trolling. — – Todd Rogers "I’ve been asked what I mean by word of honor. I will tell you. Place me behind prison walls – walls of stone ever so high, ever so thick, reaching ever so far into the ground – there is a possibility that in some way or another I may escape; but stand me on the floor and draw a chalk line around me and have me give my word of honor never to cross it. Can I get out of the circle? No. Never! I’d die first!" -Karl G. Maeser Founder of Brigham Young University
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LOL! Oh dear, now that’s what comes from knowing your scriptures. I kneel at your feet worthy lady, you have schooled me, for now I shall always have a re-butt-al.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Poor baby, didn’t they have your brand of coffee available? I doubt that what we are talking about could be construed as brainwashing, I am under a bit of stress, I asked advice, my brother, Todd, proffered it, I accept it, case closed. Where is your advice? Criticism I always have in a plentiful supply. pssst!!! Hey, Dragon. BK = Je. 22:19 — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids. They were in my neighborhood two weeks ago — left me a pamplet. It now accents the recycling bin rather nicely.
I remember an LDS Sunday school book belonging to the son of one of my friends. It had some interesting stories in it and interesting interpretations on stories from the Old and New Testaments. It’s always a good thing to read the literature of other faiths on occasion. It helps to bring about better understanding between faiths. — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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Poor baby, didn’t they have your brand of coffee available? I doubt that what we are talking about could be construed as brainwashing, I am under a bit of stress, I asked advice, my brother, Todd, proffered it, I accept it, case closed. Where is your advice? Criticism I always have in a plentiful supply.
pssst!!! Hey, Dragon. BK = Je. 22:19 — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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Missionaries are kept on a pretty tight leash in my experience. They are not allowed to do quite a bit, Just getting permission to travel out of their assigned area can be quite a hassle What you might want to do is approach the Bishop or even the relief society if you have needs, they are suppose to help. If they can. Let me know.
Thanks. What I know from living in AZ is that the Mormon church does a lot for the Mormon community. I don’t know much about what the LDS does for anyone outside the community. In Kingman, there is a strong network of local churches, but I don’t know how active the LDS was in the network. — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids. Well if you really want one, you can go to www.lds.org and find a spot to ask for a free copy.
sorry to jump in at this point but out of curiosity, is this the same blue paperback copie that was given to me at one point in time. It’s an interesting read but, from my perspective anyway, would benefit from a bit more commentary than what I found in that version. I’ve got the site written down but I’m on vacation now and have a limitted use dial up account here and am quickly approaching my 15 hours–i’d rather not spend it surfing. mark — Life is the ultimate teacher, but it is usually through experience and not scientific research that we discover its deepest lessons… We are here for a single purpose: to grow in wisdom and learn to love better. We can do this through loosing as well as winning, by having and by not having, by succeeding or by failing. All we need to do is show up openhearted for class. Rachel Naomi Remen, M.D. Kitchen Table Wisdom http://members.mint.net/mdmpsyd
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Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids.
They were in my neighborhood two weeks ago — left me a pamplet. It now accents the recycling bin rather nicely.
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As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on.
Oh, please: enough with the Mormon mumbo-jumbo. Move on, if you would — you will not find any people to brainwash here.
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Ok, I know my daughter is ADHD. I suspect I am but I have to talk my doctor into it (the diagnosis). Here’s my problem, I have been trying to stay away from caffeine, not just because I am Mormon, but I get these hellashish cramps if I don’t drink enough water with it. Well the last two weeks I have lost my inhalers (asthma) twice and had to purchase them outside my insurance. This is driving me crazy. I can’t seem to keep track of anything. Keys, combs, brushes, my glasses, thank God the kids are old enough so I can’t lose them to. I know this is driving my hubby nuts. You should see me in a grocery store, I go back and forth finding the things I need. Don’t mention lists to me, if I make them I lose them or forget them at home. This last month has been especially stressful. My husband got laid off for three weeks, no money for school supplies let alone the rent (got that worked out) or bills. So I guess I am asking what goes haywire for you guys when you stress and how do you cope?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok, I know my daughter is ADHD. I suspect I am but I have to talk my doctor into it (the diagnosis). Here’s my problem, I have been trying to stay away from caffeine, not just because I am Mormon, but I get these hellashish cramps if I don’t drink enough water with it. Well the last two weeks I have lost my inhalers (asthma) twice and had to purchase them outside my insurance. This is driving me crazy. I can’t seem to keep track of anything. Keys, combs, brushes, my glasses, thank God the kids are old enough so I can’t lose them to. I know this is driving my hubby nuts. You should see me in a grocery store, I go back and forth finding the things I need. Don’t mention lists to me, if I make them I lose them or forget them at home. This last month has been especially stressful. My husband got laid off for three weeks, no money for school supplies let alone the rent (got that worked out) or bills. So I guess I am asking what goes haywire for you guys when you stress and how do you cope?
Dunno how I coped before Chewy came along. When I’m doing all those things you listed (lost lists, lost keys, lost passcard into the office, etc), Chewy just rolls his eyes at me, then makes me slow down and relax. It’s a good thing he’s around, ’cause I get sooooo wound up when I can’t find anything. — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok, I know my daughter is ADHD. I suspect I am but I have to talk my doctor into it (the diagnosis). Here’s my problem, I have been trying to stay away from caffeine, not just because I am Mormon, but I get these hellashish cramps if I don’t drink enough water with it. Well the last two weeks I have lost my inhalers (asthma) twice and had to purchase them outside my insurance. This is driving me crazy. I can’t seem to keep track of anything. Keys, combs, brushes, my glasses, thank God the kids are old enough so I can’t lose them to. I know this is driving my hubby nuts. You should see me in a grocery store, I go back and forth finding the things I need. Don’t mention lists to me, if I make them I lose them or forget them at home. This last month has been especially stressful. My husband got laid off for three weeks, no money for school supplies let alone the rent (got that worked out) or bills. So I guess I am asking what goes haywire for you guys when you stress and how do you cope?
Well what I find is that when I’m stressed I don’t always perform as effectively. If you’re one of those people take the time to relax and ignore the stress. Then attack the problems when your calm. Solving the problems, of course, is one of the best ways to relieve stress. As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on. — – Todd Rogers "I’ve been asked what I mean by word of honor. I will tell you. Place me behind prison walls – walls of stone ever so high, ever so thick, reaching ever so far into the ground – there is a possibility that in some way or another I may escape; but stand me on the floor and draw a chalk line around me and have me give my word of honor never to cross it. Can I get out of the circle? No. Never! I’d die first!" -Karl G. Maeser Founder of Brigham Young University
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[snip] As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on.
You’re not likely to find too many people here who’ll go diving into the Book of Mormon, Todd. Joe Parsons Frequently Asked Questions for alt.support.attn-deficit and other resources for dealing with attention deficit disorder are at http://www.cyber-mall.com/asad/faq.html
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[snip] As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on. You’re not likely to find too many people here who’ll go diving into the Book of Mormon, Todd.
Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids. — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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That’s ok Joe, Me and Todd already established that we members
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snip] As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on. You’re not likely to find too many people here who’ll go diving into the Book of Mormon, Todd. Joe Parsons Frequently Asked Questions for alt.support.attn-deficit and other resources for dealing with attention deficit disorder are at http://www.cyber-mall.com/asad/faq.html
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What’s Stand up for Kids?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snip] As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on. You’re not likely to find too many people here who’ll go diving into the Book of Mormon, Todd. Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids. — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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What’s Stand up for Kids?
It’s an organization that helps street kids. http://standupforkids.org/ — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief, who *really* gets irritated with folks who say, "But all those kids *want* to live on the streets." "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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[snip] As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on. You’re not likely to find too many people here who’ll go diving into the Book of Mormon, Todd.
Yes, but it’s for Drangon, and I think she will. — – Todd Rogers "I’ve been asked what I mean by word of honor. I will tell you. Place me behind prison walls – walls of stone ever so high, ever so thick, reaching ever so far into the ground – there is a possibility that in some way or another I may escape; but stand me on the floor and draw a chalk line around me and have me give my word of honor never to cross it. Can I get out of the circle? No. Never! I’d die first!" -Karl G. Maeser Founder of Brigham Young University
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Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids.
Well if you really want one, you can go to www.lds.org and find a spot to ask for a free copy. — – Todd Rogers "I’ve been asked what I mean by word of honor. I will tell you. Place me behind prison walls – walls of stone ever so high, ever so thick, reaching ever so far into the ground – there is a possibility that in some way or another I may escape; but stand me on the floor and draw a chalk line around me and have me give my word of honor never to cross it. Can I get out of the circle? No. Never! I’d die first!" -Karl G. Maeser Founder of Brigham Young University
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Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids. Well if you really want one, you can go to www.lds.org and find a spot to ask for a free copy. —
I think I’ll wait and see if these guys follow through. My experiences with the LDS missionaries has been pretty much the same as for any other evangelical folks: They talk a good talk but don’t always walk the walk. Please note that my references is to the missionaries. My LDS friends out in AZ are some of the best people in the world. Never tried pushing their faith down my throat, either. — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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That’s ok Joe, Me and Todd already established that we members
Thought that might be the case. :) Joe Parsons – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snip] As for other advice: Mosiah 4:27 and Jarom 1:9. Talk it over with your family and help each other. And remember it may not be easy, but it won’t kill you, and if it does oh well life goes on. You’re not likely to find too many people here who’ll go diving into the Book of Mormon, Todd. Joe Parsons Frequently Asked Questions for alt.support.attn-deficit and other resources for dealing with attention deficit disorder are at http://www.cyber-mall.com/asad/faq.html
Frequently Asked Questions for alt.support.attn-deficit and other resources for dealing with attention deficit disorder are at http://www.cyber-mall.com/asad/faq.html
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Missionaries are kept on a pretty tight leash in my experience. They are not allowed to do quite a bit, Just getting permission to travel out of their assigned area can be quite a hassle What you might want to do is approach the Bishop or even the relief society if you have needs, they are suppose to help. If they can. Let me know.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I *might*, just for the heck of it… ‘cept those dang missionaries didn’t leave a copy Saturday morning. I hope they show back up when they said they’re going to so I can talk to them some more about helping Stand Up for Kids. Well if you really want one, you can go to www.lds.org and find a spot to ask for a free copy. — I think I’ll wait and see if these guys follow through. My experiences with the LDS missionaries has been pretty much the same as for any other evangelical folks: They talk a good talk but don’t always walk the walk. Please note that my references is to the missionaries. My LDS friends out in AZ are some of the best people in the world. Never tried pushing their faith down my throat, either. — Light, Love, & Laughter, Kitten, Goddess of Mischief "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." – Anonymous "Just for today, do not worry; Just for today, do not anger; Earn your living honestly; Honor your parents, teachers and elders; Show gratitude for every living thing."- Dr. Mikao Usui Before you buy.
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* Stress causes the opioids (endorphin, enkephalin, etc.) levels to diminish. The lower opioids levels create a sense of urgency. This sense of urgency is usually expressed as the need to respond to certain physical demands, e.g., if one drinks a couple of quarts of iced tea at 10:00 in the evening, he or she will usually awaken in the middle of the night with a very strong sense of urgency. As soon as the body’s need has been taken care of, the sense of urgency goes away. If the sense of urgency is initiated by continuing stress and there is no way to relieve it, the stress "signal" goes from the opioids to GABA to Norepinephrine to Serotonin to Opioids to, etc. And, a loop occurs. Consequently, there is a continued diminishing of the chemicals until the system’s control of emotions is lost. [The individual first becomes irritable, easily angered and finds him or herself suffering from easy loss of temper. Many find relief in the artificial opioid released by alcohol, tetrahydroisoquinoline, and thus become alcoholics. Others turn to opiates such as heroin, morphine, etc. Some find relief in carbohydrate bingeing. Most, rather noisily, just ruin their careers and their marriages.] * The lowering of the opioids causes an increase in dopamine levels and a decrease in GABA levels. This produces a combination of alertness and anxiety. [The so called adrenaline rush is in large part the feeling of exhilaration caused by the dopamine release. It is exactly the same chemical response as that following a small cocaine use. (i.e. cocaine use causes dopamine to be released in larger amounts than the body requires for normal functioning such as sexual climax or appreciation of beauty.) Continual extra dopamine release causes emotional fatigue which can become debilitating. It can also lead to anhedonia, in which case, he or she can no longer enjoy beauty, music, or even love, in the extreme case. Continuous anxiety from GABA reduction can lead to depression and feelings of inadequacy.] * The lowering of the GABA levels causes the norepinephrine levels to increase and serotonin to decrease. The increase in norepinephrine causes adrenaline to be released and the reduction of serotonin makes sleep difficult to impossible. [It is important to note that serotonin is a sleep enabling neurotransmitter, not a sleep inducing one. A lack of serotonin makes sleep very hard to achieve. Once the serotonin becomes available, the body demands the sleep it now badly needs. When this has been done the person feels rested and fully refreshed. However, if the stress feedback continues, the lack of sleep can cause a great deal of damage to the body.] * The increased norepinephrine encourages a quick, emotional response (e.g. anger) and discourages slower, deliberate (logical) thinking. [The anger released by the lack of the opioids is triggered more rapidly in the presence of the norepinephrine.] * The adrenaline release causes the heart to beat both faster and harder and causes red blood cell reserves to be placed in the blood stream. It causes energy sources, nutrients, and oxygen to be diverted for use by the muscles. This deprives functional organs such as the liver, the digestive tract, etc., from their needed resources. This results in the person being able to make an almost super human (though perhaps illogical) physical response to the threat. [When the heart is required to beat faster and harder over long periods of time, the illness commonly known as
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