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Food Allergies & Asthma

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Just want to say thanx for all the input. I will pass on the thoughts about dairy and asthma. Hope that you all have a great holiday season. Jay

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My grandson has had serious allergic reactions to eggs, soy, and peanuts since birth. He is now 8 and for the past year or so has been having asthma attacks also. Any connection, or just bad luck? TIA

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Food allergy and asthma are often related. Sometimes new allergies or intolerances appear, diary has been mentioned here as highly suspicious. regards Gerrit — www.extra.research.philips.com/natlab/sysarch "grampaX5" <grampajay…@webtv.net

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My grandson has had serious allergic reactions to eggs, soy, and peanuts since birth. He is now 8 and for the past year or so has been having asthma attacks also. Any connection, or just bad luck? TIA

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On Sun, 02 Dec 2001 05:54:30 GMT, Kevin and Sue <kjmul…@home.com

wrote: grampaX5 wrote: My grandson has had serious allergic reactions to eggs, soy, and peanuts since birth. He is now 8 and for the past year or so has been having asthma attacks also. If he is eating anything that he is allergic to, the answer is definitly YES. I have many food allergies also and find that I have to read every package, including vitamins and medications. If he is 100% avoiding these foods then I check with his doctor for further allergies.

The food allergy most likely to make asthma worse is dairy. Don <donwiss at panix.com

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Yes, I agree with this. It would not do any harm stopping all dairy for a while and see what happens. I still would reccomend seeing his doctor for further evaluation as soon as possible. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -GerritM wrote:

Food allergy and asthma are often related. Sometimes new allergies or intolerances appear, diary has been mentioned here as highly suspicious. regards Gerrit — www.extra.research.philips.com/natlab/sysarch "grampaX5" <grampajay…@webtv.net schreef in bericht news:23793-3C09B846-161@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net… My grandson has had serious allergic reactions to eggs, soy, and peanuts since birth. He is now 8 and for the past year or so has been having asthma attacks also. Any connection, or just bad luck? TIA

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grampaX5 wrote:

The last time I visited them he had an ‘asthma’ attack. My younger brother had serious asthma problems as a child. When it was bad, he couldn’t sleep lying down, cuz he couldn’t breath when lying down.

I know how that feels….my last bad attack I sat up in a lounge chair and told my hubby that if it did not ease up soon he could take me to the ER. Fortunatly it eased up enough for me to sleep sitting up and I was able to wait to see my doctor the next day.

When he comes in contact with any of the foods that he is known to be allergic to, it is break out the eppy pen and call 911.

If his allergies are that bad, my only advice would be to see the doctor if he is not doing ok or if there has been any change in his asthma.

His last allergic episode occured at after school daycare. They were making peanut and celery snacks and he picked up a piece of plain celery that was on a plate with some pieces that had peanut butter on them.

My nephews stepson could not be in the same room as peanuts!!!

Are bloodtests less sensitive than the old skin scratch tests? He was diagnosed with peanut/soy/egg allergies via blood test.

Blood tests are not as sensitive as the scratch tests and there are no good tests for food allergies. My food allergies we found by eliminating certain things and seeing what happened.  sue

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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, grampajay…@webtv.net (grampaX5) wrote:

He is now 8 and for the past year or so has been having asthma attacks also.

I’m reading my galley proof of Loren Cordain’s forthcoming book "The Paleo Diet." He gets into asthma. I’ll key in that paragraph: Asthma and Exercise-Induced Asthma But salt is not just bad for the bones. Although it has not been shown to cause asthma or exercised-induced asthma, it can aggravate both conditions. Studies in humans and animals have shown that salt can constrict the muscles surrounding the small airways in the lung. Recently, my research team demonstrated that salt (both the sodium and chloride components) increases the severity of exercise-induced asthma. We also showed that low-salt diets can reduce many symptoms of exercise-induced asthma. [end of excerpt] The back of the book has January on it and a copyright date of 2002, though Amazon.com says it will be published on Dec. 7th. Don <donwiss at panix.com

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from grampajay…@webtv.net (grampaX5):

My grandson has had serious allergic reactions to eggs, soy, and peanuts since birth. He is now 8 and for the past year or so has been having asthma attacks also. Any connection, or just bad luck?

Food allergies and asthma can be related, as I know from personal experience. Sensitivity can progress to a stage where asthma symptoms result from minor nonallergic irritations.

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If he is eating anything that he is allergic to, the answer is definitly YES. I have many food allergies also and find that I have to read every package, including vitamins and medications. If he is 100% avoiding these foods then I check with his doctor for further allergies. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -grampaX5 wrote:

My grandson has had serious allergic reactions to eggs, soy, and peanuts since birth. He is now 8 and for the past year or so has been having asthma attacks also. Any connection, or just bad luck? TIA

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The last time I visited them he had an ‘asthma’ attack. My younger brother had serious asthma problems as a child. When it was bad, he couldn’t sleep lying down, cuz he couldn’t breath when lying down. To me my grandson’s asthma was more like the bronchonitis I got at boot back many moons ago, that deep cough your lungs out, body shaking type. THe kind you never really get over. Are there now different types of asthma? When he comes in contact with any of the foods that he is known to be allergic to, it is break out the eppy pen and call 911. His last allergic episode occured at after school daycare. They were making peanut and celery snacks and he picked up a piece of plain celery that was on a plate with some pieces that had peanut butter on them. By the time my daughter and son-in-law got to the emergency room he had everyody in stitches doing Darth Vader imitations through the oxygen mask :-) Are bloodtests less sensitive than the old skin scratch tests? He was diagnosed with peanut/soy/egg allergies via blood test. Your comments make me wonder if it missed something/things that he only has a slight allergy to. Also, could the attacks have damaged his lungs and caused asthma like symptoms? Thanx for reading

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House Dust Allergies

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(however allergy shots kind-of work that way don’t they?  anybody know the answer to this one?)

Allergy shots are designed to build up a tolerance to specific allergens.   "Being responsible sometimes means pissing people off."    General Colin Powell

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I just think doctors should know about the cellsalts instead of prescribing drugs for conditions. The Biochemic system of medicine is a nutritional approach to health and treating any sort of deficiencies should take precedence over prescribing drugs.

translation: "don’t stick their type of chemical in your body…stick my type of chemical in your body instead" you use a lot of words without seeming to give very much thought to the actual concepts involved — eric "live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

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[...] (however allergy shots kind-of work that way don’t they?  anybody know the answer to this one?)

IIRC – and i might get flamed for posting badly wrong baloney – the notion is that allergies are your immune system overreacting to stimuli it shouldn’t react to at all, for unknown reasons; and that prolonged, low-grade (slowly increasing) stimulation with the allergens will get the immune system "dulled down" with regard to those specific stimuli; not necessarily correcting whatever went wrong to begin with, but at least taking the edge of the effects of the problem. "like cures like", however, doesn’t even necessarily stop to find the correct stimulus. (that would be unnecessary, since you only have to find something that is in some sense "like" the symtoms.) one homeopathic "remedy" for cold and flu symtoms is supposedly based on duck’s heart and liver; anybody here know what the relation between avian innards and the common cold might be? ‘cos i sure don’t. —    PGP/GnuPG key (ID 1024D/BFE0D6D0) available from keyservers everywhere        "Everything I am today, I owe to people whom it is now too late                                    to punish."

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Virchow did oppose the germ theory of disease. He was proven wrong. He did not espouse the "biochemic" theory. — CBI, MD

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Colin Atopic disease — sorry, don’t know what it is. According to The Biochemic Handbook, written by LB Chapman MD and Edward L Perry, MD, The Biochemic Theory of the 12 cell salts was discovered by a scientist called Virchow in 1858. From Encarta Virchow, Rudolf (1821-1902), German pathologist, archaeologist, and anthropologist, the founder of cellular pathology. Virchow was born in Schivelbein, Pomerania (now Swidwin, Poland), and educated at the University of Berlin. In 1843 he became prosector at the Charit

BRITTLE ASTHMA

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Hello, I have brittle asthma (type 2), this is very severe asthma. Is there anyone out there with any info, or help please mail to

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I have brittle asthma (type 2), this is very severe asthma. Is there anyone out there with any info, or help please mail to

The term ‘brittle’ seems to be more commonly used in the UK. See: http://www.applied-medical.co.uk/brittle.htm Brittle Asthma Excerpt: "KEY POINTS Brittle asthma is relatively uncommon and consequently has  been characterized in clinical terms.  Two types at least  can be identified, type 1 characterized by wide peak flow  variation despite maximal therapy and type 2 by very sudden  attacks. Type 1 brittle asthma is associated with the female sex,  atopy, high psychosocial disturbance and food intolerance.  Treatment has to be holistic. Type 2 brittle asthma is best treated with self-injectable  adrenaline and avoidance of recognized triggers." This article was first published in the British Journal of  Hospital Medicine 57(8): 387-9 27 http://www.gpiag-asthma.org/Asthma/gpiag/Facts/factsheet5.htm Excerpt: "Brittle Asthma    Some asthmatics may benefit from nebulised bronchodilators  for sudden asthma attacks. These patients must be taught and  understand clearly when and how to use the nebuliser under  such circumstances (a written management plan). " Written by Dr David Bellamy MBE August 1998 This factsheet was edited by Dr Mark L Levy FRCGP, Editor GPIAG http://www.asthmaassistant.com/tp1isit/types.html Different Types of Asthma http://www.wcsquare.demon.co.uk/protocol/asthma.htm Asthma Ellis

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Little One's Bath

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It was sooo hot yesterday that I thought a nice cool bath would cheer-up my Little One (DSH 4 years old). How wrong I was! I drew the water up to the depth of her belly and checked the temperature. Then I got towels, her comb and made sure I could close the bathroom door to prevent bolting!  I picked-her up from her resting place (in the shade, under my desk) and told her "Mama’s going to give you a nice cool bath." We went into the bathroom and closed the door.  Immediately, Little One began thrashing in my arms.  No blood, yet.  I placed her gently in the tub and she let out this yowl that sounded like a combination of a foghorn and screeching tire.  My other cat was in the hallway and I heard her running away from the bathroom at the sound. She was probably thinking "you’re next." Since Little One did not like her little bath, I kept it to less than 5 minutes.  I got her wet and combed her out. When it was over, I attempted to dry her off.  She looked at me; looked at the closed bathroom door; and yowled again.  I let her out, she ran into the living room and shook off all the water. After I cleaned-up the mess and bandaged my leg, I found her on the windowsill, legs open, drying off. She’s much happier today…..

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It was sooo hot yesterday that I thought a nice cool bath would cheer- up my Little One (DSH 4 years old). How wrong I was!

<snip horror story of cat bathing Just a quick hint – if you feel that your cat is overheated (they pant if they are), wipe them with a damp, clean cloth. The evopration does cool them a little, and they don’t freak out, because their underfur and skin don’t get wet. Mostly though, I’d just leave then be. I tried to give Shmoggleberry a nice cool shower once too, and barely lived to regret it. Vicky Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Just a quick hint – if you feel that your cat is overheated (they pant if they are), wipe them with a damp, clean cloth. The evopration does cool them a little, and they don’t freak out, because their underfur and skin don’t get wet.

I agree with this totaly, The cat is already stressed because of the heat, you don’t want to add to the anxiety.  We had a friend that gave their cat a bath and it suffered a heart attack and died durring it. Now we do have to give cats a bath every now and again, but during a time that they are already stressed may not be the right time. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I totally agree with that.  My old cat used to pant and when we took him to the vet she found a heart murmur,  she said as long as he didn’t seem distressed he would be ok, but that panting shouldn’t be something he does all the time.  I would have it checked out. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Just a quick hint – if you feel that your cat is overheated (they pant if they are), wipe them with a damp, clean cloth. The evopration does cool them a little, and they don’t freak out, because their underfur and skin don’t get wet.

I have a question about this.  When does panting warrant a trip to the vet?  Last summer during one of the hotter weeks, I caught Lucille panting.  A few days later, after vigorous play, she was panting again.  I freaked out, and rushed her to the vet.  The vet took x-rays and determined that she had asthma. We have sinced moved and thus changed vets.  This vet doesn’t think she has asthma at all.  He said we should just watch for "labored breathing." Well, isn’t labored breathing the same thing as panting? -Marcia Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Too funny!!!!  :-) AL  =^..^=  =^.v.^= – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I placed her gently in the tub and she let out this yowl that sounded like a combination of a foghorn and screeching tire.

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Thanks for the tips.  After the "bath" Little One was fine…just a bit stressed out.

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When I was a teenager, my Lynx point siamese got into a skunk at 2 AM. Had to give him a bath in V8 (didn’t have tomato juice or paste). My sister woke up thinking I was killing him. He yowled louder than usual, and any siamese owner knows that’s pretty loud! Stacey (now the proud mommy of INDOOR cats) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Too funny!!!!  :-) AL  =^..^=  =^.v.^= I placed her gently in the tub and she let out this yowl that sounded like a combination of a foghorn and screeching tire.

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When Sid and Nancy came to us, they had fleas quite bad and since they were little tykes, I took them to the vet for a proper dipping. When we moved into a new apartment, it came with fleas (free of charge!) but this time I just bathed them myself. It was actually quite easy, I placed a bowl of cat food in the tub and jumped in the shower with them and washed them as they ate. My cats will do ANYTHING for food. On that note.. has anyone heard of putting a screen down in the tub so that when you put the water on the cat they push out their claws and then become stuck on the screen? A friend INSISTED this was a very good plan but I just looked at her like she was crazy. Mind you, she did not have cats and had "heard" this was the way to go. I’d never try it because I know my cats and I know it wouldn’t work… was just wondering if anyone had heard of it or had tried it. Stacey :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for the tips.  After the "bath" Little One was fine…just a bit stressed out.

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Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all?  When I first adopted Loree, she used to lie down in the litter box… and used to get stinky!  I used to bath her once every two months or so, but have stopped bathing her. She’s clean now, but doesn’t have the lovely, fluffy, clean-smelling fur as when I used to bathe her. Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand?

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Hi Marcia and all, Our 14 yo cat began panting last summer during severe heat waves as well. Taking her down into the basement where it’s at least ten degrees cooler helped a lot, so I figured it was simply the heat and her age. Through subsequent problems and x-rays, however, it turned out she had an enlarged heart and needed meds. I don’t think it ever hurts to err on the side of caution. Regards, april – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When does panting warrant a trip to the vet?  Last summer during one of the hotter weeks, I caught Lucille panting.  A few days later, after vigorous play, she was panting again.  I freaked out, and rushed her to the vet.  The vet took x-rays and determined that she had asthma. We have sinced moved and thus changed vets.  This vet doesn’t think she has asthma at all.  He said we should just watch for "labored breathing." Well, isn’t labored breathing the same thing as panting? -Marcia Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all?  When I first adopted Loree, she used to lie down in the litter box… and used to get stinky!  I used to bath her once every two months or so, but have stopped bathing her. She’s clean now, but doesn’t have the lovely, fluffy, clean-smelling fur as when I used to bathe her. Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand?

I think it depends on the cat.  Most are self-cleaning, and I’ve heard that frequent bathing dries their skin and therefore is not good for them. Joy

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I believe you can pick up a "dry bath" at your pet store. It is a powder you rub or comb into your cat’s fur the clean it. Maybe that will help with the litter odor! Stacey "Oh, come here and snuggle with mommy… EWWWW  you smell like the litter box, get down! <PLOP" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all?   She’s clean now, but doesn’t have the lovely, fluffy, clean-smelling fur as when I used to bathe her. Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand? I think it depends on the cat.  Most are self-cleaning, and I’ve heard that frequent bathing dries their skin and therefore is not good for them. Joy Jane, Joy is absolutely correct.  Bathing a cat too often removes some of the oils that keep the fur soft, and results in excessive shedding.  An occasional bath, when necessary, such as after an encounter with a skunk or to control a flea problem is ok.  Generally cats don’t like water on them and would much prefer a nice long brushing.  If you need to bathe you cat, use only shampoo which is specifically made for cats.  Some shampoos contain chemicals that may be harmful to your cat.  As far as a sweet smelling cat goes; you may like it, but your cat definitely doesn’t.   Cats generally are fanatical about keeping themselves clean and any scent, other than their own and other familiar scents  will often upset a cat.  Ever notice how a cat is always rubbing against objects and people?  That’s to transfer her scent, to mark it as "checked and approved". ;-) Phil

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Marcia, There are different types of asthma in cats. One type is "Extrinsic", and another type is "Intrinsic".   Extrinsic (from without) asthma refers to "attacks" that follow exposure to substances in the environment – dusts, pollens, and the like.  Intrinsic (from within) asthma is inherent. Heavy breathing or panting or labored breathing is all too commonly dismissed as asthma.  Your second vet is _very_ wise.  What he  may be suspicious of is called "Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy".  It is more prevalent in older cats, over 7 years old, but is also possible in younger cats. Some older vets tend to rule it out or overlook the possibility because cats did not live as long as do today to develop the disease as they did when he/she was in school.  With new medical advancements cats are living longer which presents a host of new illnesses which did not exist a few years ago, simply the result of older age.  Just like us. Speak to you vet, and ask him if this is what he suspects.  If it is, this disease is best confirmed with ultrasonagraphy, but X-rays and electrocardiograms (ECG) can be helpful.  Long term management of this problem, if this is what it turns out to be, is possible through the use of medications if it is _ diagnosed early_.  The insidious nature of this disease would cause me to err on the side of caution and opt for the ultrasounds if there was even the slightest possibility of my cat being affected. The "Little Ones" can’t tell us if something is bothering them and usually by the time it becomes apparent, it’s too late.  When it comes to my cats, there’s no such thing as "over cautious" or "over reaction" or "foolish". As long as they’re ok, I’m a contented over cautious, over reacting fool. Phil

Me too, Phil.  Thanks for the advice.  Unfortunately, the second vet doesn’t seem concerned about anything.  We did get her x-rayed at our first vet’s.  I am going to change to a third, get all her medical records transferred, and ask for a third opinion and get the necessary tests done.  She is far too important to me to take any risks. Thanks again, Marcia Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Hi Marcia and all, Our 14 yo cat began panting last summer during severe heat waves as well. Taking her down into the basement where it’s at least ten degrees cooler helped a lot, so I figured it was simply the heat and her age. Through subsequent problems and x-rays, however, it turned out she had an enlarged heart and needed meds. I don’t think it ever hurts to err on the side of caution. Regards, april

Thanks, April.  I hope your cat is doing well. Marcia Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all?  When I first adopted Loree, she used to lie down in the litter box… and used to get stinky!  I used to bath her once every two months or so, but have stopped bathing her. She’s clean now, but doesn’t have the lovely, fluffy, clean-smelling fur as when I used to bathe her. Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand?

I think that for the most part they sre self cleaning but sometimes (like when Rosie got the runs) they need a little help, we managed to get her in the bath once, when she was in heat so I think that maybe she was glad of the relief <g but we prefer to shower the cats with luke warm water.  As for the lovely soft clean fur, I don’t know how often you brush you cat but I think that brushing makes the fur much softer, to me my cats don’t really have ‘a smell’  so I couldn’t comment on the odour Sally x

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Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all? Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand? I think that for the most part they sre self cleaning but sometimes (like when Rosie got the runs) they need a little help,

– After reading several posts about how cats are self-cleaning, never need a bath, etc. I quit bathing mine regularly. Yesterday I got a close look at the curtains they brush against getting in and out of the living room window. They’re all going in the tub tonight. If they give me grief, I’ll toss them in the washing machine with the curtains I’m having to wash because they got them dirty. <evil grin Cheers, Dave If there were dreams to sell Merry and sad to tell And the crier rang the bell         What would you buy?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all? Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand? I think that for the most part they sre self cleaning but sometimes (like when Rosie got the runs) they need a little help, — After reading several posts about how cats are self-cleaning, never need a bath, etc. I quit bathing mine regularly. Yesterday I got a close look at the curtains they brush against getting in and out of the living room window. They’re all going in the tub tonight. If they give me grief, I’ll toss them in the washing machine with the curtains I’m having to wash because they got them dirty. <evil grin Cheers, Dave If there were dreams to sell Merry and sad to tell And the crier rang the bell What would you buy?

They might get through the wash cycle if your using cold water and the cats are very lucky, but they will never get through the rinse cycle.  I was watching Discovery Channel a month or so back and on @Discovery.Ca the YAFI segment had a question about how high the G force was from the spinning in a washing machine. After checking with a manufacturer and a little calculation they came up with 280 G’s – poorer quality makes only 260 – 270 G.  At that kind G Force, I don’t care how lucky cats are, were looking at a very ugly bundle of fur. Probably would have to send the shredded (from the cats claws in wash cycle) curtains out to the cleaners after that to have the stains removed. Much better to wash them by hand (the cats, that is), preferably by armoured gloved hand. <g Larry Osborne

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all? Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand? I think that for the most part they sre self cleaning but sometimes (like when Rosie got the runs) they need a little help, — After reading several posts about how cats are self-cleaning, never need a bath, etc. I quit bathing mine regularly. Yesterday I got a close look at the curtains they brush against getting in and out of the living room window. They’re all going in the tub tonight. If they give me grief, I’ll toss them in the washing machine with the curtains I’m having to wash because they got them dirty. <evil grin Cheers, Dave If there were dreams to sell Merry and sad to tell And the crier rang the bell What would you buy? They might get through the wash cycle if your using cold water and the cats are very lucky, but they will never get through the rinse cycle.  I was watching Discovery Channel a month or so back and on @Discovery.Ca the YAFI segment had a question about how high the G force was from the spinning in a washing machine. After checking with a manufacturer and a little calculation they came up with 280 G’s – poorer quality makes only 260 – 270 G.  At that kind G Force, I don’t care how lucky cats are, were looking at a very ugly bundle of fur. Probably would have to send the shredded (from the cats claws in wash cycle) curtains out to the cleaners after that to have the stains removed. Much better to wash them by hand (the cats, that is), preferably by armoured gloved hand. <g Larry Osborne

        Not to mention what the dryer will do to them. Of course, I could get a front-loading washer with a glass door and watch it in living color.         The last time I bathed them, I wore heavy leather welding gloves and one of those padded suits they use for training guard dogs; when I finished bathing the Terrible Trio I was wearing a shredded t-shirt and something that looked like Michael Jackson’s gloves. I looked as if I had been trying to massage a tiger’s prostate and mistook Ben Gay for the vaseline. Cheers, Dave — If there were dreams to sell Merry and sad to tell And the crier rang the bell         What would you buy?

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It may depend on the breed. My mom has a Devon Rex and he needs a bath after about 2 weeks or he has a funny smell. My cats didn’t need one except when they had fleas and needed to be dipped. Most cats wouldn’t need a bath but some like it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Speaking of bathing cats, is it okay to bathe cats at all?  When I first adopted Loree, she used to lie down in the litter box… and used to get stinky!  I used to bath her once every two months or so, but have stopped bathing her. She’s clean now, but doesn’t have the lovely, fluffy, clean-smelling fur as when I used to bathe her. Are kitties self-cleaning or do they need a hand? I think that for the most part they sre self cleaning but sometimes (like when Rosie got the runs) they need a little help, we managed to get her in the bath once, when she was in heat so I think that maybe she was glad of the relief <g but we prefer to shower the cats with luke warm water.  As for the lovely soft clean fur, I don’t know how often you brush you cat but I think that brushing makes the fur much softer, to me my cats don’t really have ‘a smell’  so I couldn’t comment on the odour Sally x

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   Not to mention what the dryer will do to them. Of course, I could get a front-loading washer with a glass door and watch it in living color.    The last time I bathed them, I wore heavy leather welding gloves and one of those padded suits they use for training guard dogs; when I finished bathing the Terrible Trio I was wearing a shredded t-shirt and something that looked like Michael Jackson’s gloves. I looked as if I had been trying to massage a tiger’s prostate and mistook Ben Gay for the

Bloodbath! The only way to wash kitty is to use the element of surprise: 1) trim claws 2) fill bucket in bathtub 3) lure kitty into bathroom.  I have my kitties conditioned to that four letter word begining w/ ‘F’:  FISH! 4) grab kitty by rear and front paws and dunk! up to neck.  rub water past neck onto forhead. 5) rinse kitty under fawcett. Pray that kitty will ever forgive you. I did this stuff in the days of living in flea country.  Thankfully, fleas can’t live at my altitude (denver). :-D

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       The last time I bathed them, I wore heavy leather welding gloves and one of those padded suits they use for training guard dogs; when I finished bathing the Terrible Trio I was wearing a shredded t-shirt and something that looked like Michael Jackson’s gloves. I looked as if I had been trying to massage a tiger’s prostate and mistook Ben Gay for the vaseline.

My brother’s cat normally did a good impression of a limp rug.  He was convinced she’d be equally lethargic when she needed a bath for fleas, so, to avoid getting his clothes soaked, he decided he’d just wear swim trunks. He’s still got scars up one arm and down his back where she used him to climb out of the tub. — Working at Apple for Javasoft

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i would think that their claws would get stuck in the screen and they would tear them out if they got scared. i wouldnt recommend it. then you would have a flailing screen connected to a screaming wet cat and then you would have a mess. i dont think it would work at all.

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“Sure guys have feelings . . . but like, who cares!”

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The only way to wash kitty is to use the element of surprise: 1) trim claws 2) fill bucket in bathtub 3) lure kitty into bathroom.  I have my kitties conditioned to that four letter word begining w/ ‘F’:  FISH! 4) grab kitty by rear and front paws and dunk! up to neck.  rub water past neck onto forhead. 5) rinse kitty under fawcett. Pray that kitty will ever forgive you. I did this stuff in the days of living in flea country.  Thankfully, fleas can’t live at my altitude (denver). :-D NYET! That’s not a good way to do it. This is what I do, and my cat’s claws are regularly trimmed.

wrong.  It is an excellant way.  The whole idea is to finish the job in less than a minute.

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remembering meds

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Wendy: Try one of those compartmentalized pill boxes that are marketed to older people who have to take several meds various times of the day.  You can find them at the drug store.  On Sunday (or whatever day you choose) you fill the thing for the whole week.  Then you know if the pills are still in there, you haven’t taken them!  It’s worked great for me!  I set the timer on my watch to go off when I need to take it (or set a beeper on your computer, or just tell everyone around you to remind you, you don’t have to do it all by yourself, you know!) Here are some web sites with some great organizing tips: www.add.org members.aol.com/addnews members.aol.com/BevKPrice (miningco) www.chadd.org www.bouncingbrains.com God bless and Good Luck!

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Wendy: Try one of those compartmentalized pill boxes that are marketed to older

people The real tough part is, remembering to take the pillbox with you. I keep doing double trips from home to the office. When it is rattling in my pocket, it works great.  Now to get it into my pocket.

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Thanks everybody.  I’ve tried those before and they did work pretty well, except for the asthma inhaler I use as a preventative.  I guess my biggest problem with the pill boxes is remembering to use it well- fill it same day every week, bring that days box with me, etc.  Also when I vary the dosage of certain things it gets confusing.     Wendy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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The real tough part is, remembering to take the pillbox with you. I keep doing double trips from home to the office.

keep it in something you take to work..briefcase,purse,jacket..ect and while at home go to the purse or breifcase to take your pill,without removing the pill box,then you will have it in your purse or case for tommorrow i use to keep it in my purse 24 hours so if i went shopping,parties,work..ect it was always there and i never lost them just NEVER take the pill box out of the purse or case.. good luck who else hates Dr.Laura?

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I love to use those daily pill boxes.  They are pretty cheap, and fit nicely into small purses.  When ever anyone is on anything routine in our house into the pill boxes they go right away.  Then I use my watch alarm, wich I  set to go off at the right times.  Since my purse is always with me, when the alarm goes off the stuff is with me.

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Actually, they sell boxes with morning, lunch, dinner and bedtime divisions. They even sell them with a grid that holds all 28 weekly potential dose times. The grid is made up of 7 holders for the seven days of the week so you can pull today’s holder out to take with you- or whatever. Works like a charm for those who take a lot or can’t remember whether they took it, etc. Susan

:  I used to have the same problem.  I would look at my bottles of pills and : wonder if I already took them or not. What i did was buy one of those pill : boxes that have the days of the week on them. Each Sunday night i cut up all of : my pills and count them out and place them in their own little box. That way : all I have to do pop open Mondays box and take all the meds inside. I only take : them once a day so i dont know what to do about your situation except maybe buy : two boxes. One for the morning batch and one for the afternoon. They only cost : about a buck each. : Hope this helps. : -Kent

: Is anyone familiar with this:  You’re halfway thru your day and you can’t : quite recall if you took all the meds you were supposed to, or exactly how : many you did take,  or this:  It’s the weekend and you of course started you : day later than durring the week and the kids did too, you take the kids : shopping with you somewhere and you suddenly realize as they’re tearing thru : the mall that you forgot to give you child their afternoon dose ( after all : they usually do that at school and they didn’t get up till 9 or 10 you left : to go shopping at noon that would be too soon). :     I realize I’m rambling a bit but any ideas about how to remember what : you took when and how many?  Personally I take Wellbutrin and sometimes Dex : as I feel I need it, I also take 3-4 different types of asthma medicine : again some as needed.  I have an extremely hard time remembering any meds : unless they give me immediate relief to a physical problem ( my asthma meds : when I’m having trouble breathing ).  I also have trouble remembering my : daughter’s eve dose of imipramine, in fact I’ve changed it to the a.m. so : she gets it consistently. :     Wendy : — : …it said "use Windows95 or better to operate", so I bought a Macintosh… —

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Thank you!  I used to think I was the only person who ever did this, I’m taking St-Johns Wort,  and for awhile was taking an anti migrane medcation.  Both are/were night time doses.  Sometimes i’ll lie in bed and wonder "Did I take it?"  I feel like I’m loosing mt mind.  Then I discovered those wonerfull pill boxes other people have mentioned. Hurrarah!  I use them as well when my kids have to take antibiotics or something. Heather – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Is anyone familiar with this:  You’re halfway thru your day and you can’t quite recall if you took all the meds you were supposed to, or exactly how many you did take,  or this:  It’s the weekend and you of course started you

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 I used to have the same problem.  I would look at my bottles of pills and wonder if I already took them or not. What i did was buy one of those pill boxes that have the days of the week on them. Each Sunday night i cut up all of my pills and count them out and place them in their own little box. That way all I have to do pop open Mondays box and take all the meds inside. I only take them once a day so i dont know what to do about your situation except maybe buy two boxes. One for the morning batch and one for the afternoon. They only cost about a buck each. Hope this helps. -Kent – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is anyone familiar with this:  You’re halfway thru your day and you can’t quite recall if you took all the meds you were supposed to, or exactly how many you did take,  or this:  It’s the weekend and you of course started you day later than durring the week and the kids did too, you take the kids shopping with you somewhere and you suddenly realize as they’re tearing thru the mall that you forgot to give you child their afternoon dose ( after all they usually do that at school and they didn’t get up till 9 or 10 you left to go shopping at noon that would be too soon).     I realize I’m rambling a bit but any ideas about how to remember what you took when and how many?  Personally I take Wellbutrin and sometimes Dex as I feel I need it, I also take 3-4 different types of asthma medicine again some as needed.  I have an extremely hard time remembering any meds unless they give me immediate relief to a physical problem ( my asthma meds when I’m having trouble breathing ).  I also have trouble remembering my daughter’s eve dose of imipramine, in fact I’ve changed it to the a.m. so she gets it consistently.     Wendy

– …it said "use Windows95 or better to operate", so I bought a Macintosh…

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Is anyone familiar with this:  You’re halfway thru your day and you can’t quite recall if you took all the meds you were supposed to, or exactly how many you did take,  or this:  It’s the weekend and you of course started you day later than durring the week and the kids did too, you take the kids shopping with you somewhere and you suddenly realize as they’re tearing thru the mall that you forgot to give you child their afternoon dose ( after all they usually do that at school and they didn’t get up till 9 or 10 you left to go shopping at noon that would be too soon).     I realize I’m rambling a bit but any ideas about how to remember what you took when and how many?  Personally I take Wellbutrin and sometimes Dex as I feel I need it, I also take 3-4 different types of asthma medicine again some as needed.  I have an extremely hard time remembering any meds unless they give me immediate relief to a physical problem ( my asthma meds when I’m having trouble breathing ).  I also have trouble remembering my daughter’s eve dose of imipramine, in fact I’ve changed it to the a.m. so she gets it consistently.     Wendy

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